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The fight back against OFSTED has begun - support needed

342 replies

wantmorenow · 20/03/2023 12:51

Just saw this and it seems genuine and if so then bloody marvellous. Let's hope this is the rallying call to changes with immediate effect. This has been posted today. A Headteacher has refused access to Ofsted tomorrow, I assume in the wake of the coverage of Ruth Perry's death.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765105-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-trigger-warning?page=1

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765712-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-further-details

twitter.com/FloraSCooper/status/1637760884243066881

I've just had the call.
I've refused entry.
This is an interesting phone call.
Doing this for everyone for our school staff everywhere!

School asking for support in person tomorrow 8am if local.

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Lovelyveg82 · 20/03/2023 13:20

What “information” @LlynTegid

cupofdecaf · 20/03/2023 13:25

Which school is this? Couldn't work it out from Twitter.

TropicalH20 · 20/03/2023 13:27

wantmorenow · 20/03/2023 12:51

Just saw this and it seems genuine and if so then bloody marvellous. Let's hope this is the rallying call to changes with immediate effect. This has been posted today. A Headteacher has refused access to Ofsted tomorrow, I assume in the wake of the coverage of Ruth Perry's death.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765105-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-trigger-warning?page=1

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4765712-ofsted-needs-to-be-abolished-further-details

twitter.com/FloraSCooper/status/1637760884243066881

I've just had the call.
I've refused entry.
This is an interesting phone call.
Doing this for everyone for our school staff everywhere!

School asking for support in person tomorrow 8am if local.

From a little bit of digging she's only been the excecitive head since September 2022. I get ofstead are rubbish what I wonder what her reasons are for blocking.

Also from a safeguarding children's POV. This is gaining traction and she's published the whereabouts of the school on social media. Massive no. If I saw the head done this at my DS school I would be furious.

titchy · 20/03/2023 13:38

Bloody hell, she publicly admits on her Twitter that she doesn't know what she's doing regarding not letting them in. Stupid woman. If you want to campaign, do it properly, plan it, raise support. Knee jerk reactions and calls for tue non t

titchy · 20/03/2023 13:39
  • crowds to turn up at school does not help teachers or children.
Howdoyoulikeyoureggsinthemorning · 20/03/2023 13:39

Can someone please explain why Ofsted is a bad thing?

Why is it bad that worse schools (unsafe, not working in the childrens' best interests, messy, poor food etc) are called out for being worse schools?

Lancasterel · 20/03/2023 13:40

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:20

If there is a rising atmosphere of anarchy in UK schools - always taking into account the sensationalism of media reporting - it's not to be wondered at.

Draconian, sexist, anachronistic uniform policy which no one on the continent or in the US appears to need. Humiliating female students by the measuring of skirt lengths. Policing ridiculously petty details like the colour of stitching on shoes. I'm at a loss to see how this either enforces discipline (it doesn't, given the laissez faire attitude of schools to far more serious issues), or improves the quality of education.

Serious safeguarding issues surrounding girls' toileting areas, already having resulted in serious injury to a girl only last week. The extent of this problem is leading to protests by kids because the adults responsible for them will not protect them.

Bullying - of both staff and students - is rife. Victims are being excluded as they present too much of a problem, whilst the perpetrators know they can act with impunity.

The system firing off a snotty letter because your Year 4 sick kid's been absent one day in the autumn term. This for a child with an impeccable attendance record leading up to that date - no requested holidays and only one other sickness absence in that time - and who has never once, since the first day of Reception, been late.

A profession that can't keep its staff and are currently striking because conditions are intolerable.

A life ruled by metrics rather than teaching real subjects to real people.

Terrible methods of literacy and numeracy teaching. Phonics is dreadful, a whole teaching system based on the tiny Clackmannanshire study with a small population sample to determine the demographics being failed by then-current literacy teaching. A kneejerk report based on those inconclusive findings and voila! The same demographic is being failed by this system of teaching to the one being used before.

Numeracy levels woeful. The far east are doing something right whilst we are going very wrong.

Now an Ofsted lockout.

This is the result of Tory policy and a succession of inept, clueless education ministers, the worst of which we hadn't seen until Michael Gove. Teaching is a profession in crisis.

Preach.

Mischance · 20/03/2023 13:41

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:20

If there is a rising atmosphere of anarchy in UK schools - always taking into account the sensationalism of media reporting - it's not to be wondered at.

Draconian, sexist, anachronistic uniform policy which no one on the continent or in the US appears to need. Humiliating female students by the measuring of skirt lengths. Policing ridiculously petty details like the colour of stitching on shoes. I'm at a loss to see how this either enforces discipline (it doesn't, given the laissez faire attitude of schools to far more serious issues), or improves the quality of education.

Serious safeguarding issues surrounding girls' toileting areas, already having resulted in serious injury to a girl only last week. The extent of this problem is leading to protests by kids because the adults responsible for them will not protect them.

Bullying - of both staff and students - is rife. Victims are being excluded as they present too much of a problem, whilst the perpetrators know they can act with impunity.

The system firing off a snotty letter because your Year 4 sick kid's been absent one day in the autumn term. This for a child with an impeccable attendance record leading up to that date - no requested holidays and only one other sickness absence in that time - and who has never once, since the first day of Reception, been late.

A profession that can't keep its staff and are currently striking because conditions are intolerable.

A life ruled by metrics rather than teaching real subjects to real people.

Terrible methods of literacy and numeracy teaching. Phonics is dreadful, a whole teaching system based on the tiny Clackmannanshire study with a small population sample to determine the demographics being failed by then-current literacy teaching. A kneejerk report based on those inconclusive findings and voila! The same demographic is being failed by this system of teaching to the one being used before.

Numeracy levels woeful. The far east are doing something right whilst we are going very wrong.

Now an Ofsted lockout.

This is the result of Tory policy and a succession of inept, clueless education ministers, the worst of which we hadn't seen until Michael Gove. Teaching is a profession in crisis.

It is a micro-managed mess. And micro-managed by ministers who are not educationalists and who do not listen to educationalists.

Inspection? - fine, let's do this. Bur let's have a system of inspection that is coupled with constructive support if problems are found.

titchy · 20/03/2023 13:41

Christ it's an infant and nursery as well - little kids. Potentially very frightening for them if large crowds turn up. Angry

AdaLane · 20/03/2023 13:41

Really hope that more school leaders take the same stance to bring about reform in the inspection process.

It doesn't have to be like this, fear, panic, sleepless nights and now a suicide.

It is all to much linked to the political intent of academisation. Judged inadequate, trust take over ( if one can be found) HT out. Career ending, minimum.

TropicalH20 · 20/03/2023 13:43

It'd just all so sad. What is the answer to our children getting a good, decent education that has good resources and support for all children be that academically or mentally.

Mactaser · 20/03/2023 13:44

cupofdecaf · 20/03/2023 13:25

Which school is this? Couldn't work it out from Twitter.

Like Ruth Perry’s school, it’s in Berkshire.

Mischance · 20/03/2023 13:45

Howdoyoulikeyoureggsinthemorning · 20/03/2023 13:39

Can someone please explain why Ofsted is a bad thing?

Why is it bad that worse schools (unsafe, not working in the childrens' best interests, messy, poor food etc) are called out for being worse schools?

As I keep saying - ad nauseam! - inspection is fine; but it must be coupled with constructive support. The reason it isn't is that LA Education departments are dwindling away through lack of funding, some of their functions having been handed to unelected, untrained academy trustees.

movintothecountry · 20/03/2023 13:45

Why can't headteachers take the decision to let ofsted in, whilst supporting their staff not to do anything differently and not to get so stressed about the inspections?

I appreciate its difficult if you have a head who isn't supportive but if you do, why not just lead by example and crack on? The head and teaching staff can explain their approach to parents/governors - that their efforts remain focused on giving the children the best education and not jumping through ofsted hoops. I'm sure most parents, me included, would support that and it would be less drama for all? Teachers unions could also do more to encourage and support this approach for teachers mental health.

Schools and teachers do need oversight, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

saraclara · 20/03/2023 13:48

Howdoyoulikeyoureggsinthemorning · 20/03/2023 13:39

Can someone please explain why Ofsted is a bad thing?

Why is it bad that worse schools (unsafe, not working in the childrens' best interests, messy, poor food etc) are called out for being worse schools?

Schools having regular checks? Fine. I'm for that both as a teacher (retired), patent and grandparent.

It's HOW OFSTED carried out inspections that's the issue. Very little of what they demand (and the huge range and minutiae of it) related to what children and parents are looking for from the school and its staff.

The OFSTED system is punitive, not supportive. It's not about helping schools improve, it's about damning them. And there's a huge political background around wanting them to fail, so that the government can turn them all into academies and get rid of local government control over them.

FriedEggChocolate · 20/03/2023 13:49

@cupofdecaf if you click on her twitter handle, her first tweet that appears gives the name of the school.

Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 13:49

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:20

If there is a rising atmosphere of anarchy in UK schools - always taking into account the sensationalism of media reporting - it's not to be wondered at.

Draconian, sexist, anachronistic uniform policy which no one on the continent or in the US appears to need. Humiliating female students by the measuring of skirt lengths. Policing ridiculously petty details like the colour of stitching on shoes. I'm at a loss to see how this either enforces discipline (it doesn't, given the laissez faire attitude of schools to far more serious issues), or improves the quality of education.

Serious safeguarding issues surrounding girls' toileting areas, already having resulted in serious injury to a girl only last week. The extent of this problem is leading to protests by kids because the adults responsible for them will not protect them.

Bullying - of both staff and students - is rife. Victims are being excluded as they present too much of a problem, whilst the perpetrators know they can act with impunity.

The system firing off a snotty letter because your Year 4 sick kid's been absent one day in the autumn term. This for a child with an impeccable attendance record leading up to that date - no requested holidays and only one other sickness absence in that time - and who has never once, since the first day of Reception, been late.

A profession that can't keep its staff and are currently striking because conditions are intolerable.

A life ruled by metrics rather than teaching real subjects to real people.

Terrible methods of literacy and numeracy teaching. Phonics is dreadful, a whole teaching system based on the tiny Clackmannanshire study with a small population sample to determine the demographics being failed by then-current literacy teaching. A kneejerk report based on those inconclusive findings and voila! The same demographic is being failed by this system of teaching to the one being used before.

Numeracy levels woeful. The far east are doing something right whilst we are going very wrong.

Now an Ofsted lockout.

This is the result of Tory policy and a succession of inept, clueless education ministers, the worst of which we hadn't seen until Michael Gove. Teaching is a profession in crisis.

Teaching is in crisis, but not because of most of the things you have posted, especially the phonics part - a load of tosh which has no basis in fact and disregards study after study that shows the opposite without any doubt whatsoever.

schoolsweek.co.uk/head-plans-to-refuse-ofsted-inspectors-entry-following-ruth-perry-death/

Brave, brave lady.

Howdoyoulikeyoureggsinthemorning · 20/03/2023 13:50

Mischance · 20/03/2023 13:45

As I keep saying - ad nauseam! - inspection is fine; but it must be coupled with constructive support. The reason it isn't is that LA Education departments are dwindling away through lack of funding, some of their functions having been handed to unelected, untrained academy trustees.

Can you give me an example? Genuinely asking as I don't work in teaching so have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. But I've always downloaded my childrens' Ofsted reports and can't see what's wrong with how they're put together.

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:50

Mischance · 20/03/2023 13:41

It is a micro-managed mess. And micro-managed by ministers who are not educationalists and who do not listen to educationalists.

Inspection? - fine, let's do this. Bur let's have a system of inspection that is coupled with constructive support if problems are found.

I completely agree.

Barannca · 20/03/2023 13:52

I don't think Ofsted will tell me anything I dont already know.
I agree. Ofsted isn't fit for purpose and their ratings are more or less meaningless. At the same time they cause immeasurable stress for school staff

saraclara · 20/03/2023 13:53

...and not jumping through ofsted hoops.

@movintothecountry that would result in an inadequate grade in all areas.

I'm afraid you're being very naive. I don't blame you because if you're not working in the school system, you'll not be aware of OFSTED requirements. There's no reason that any non-teacher would be.

But genuinely, it would end up with the school failing in every area, and the government bringing in an Academy chain and undoing all the things you want as a parent.

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:53

Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 13:49

Teaching is in crisis, but not because of most of the things you have posted, especially the phonics part - a load of tosh which has no basis in fact and disregards study after study that shows the opposite without any doubt whatsoever.

schoolsweek.co.uk/head-plans-to-refuse-ofsted-inspectors-entry-following-ruth-perry-death/

Brave, brave lady.

No study ever shows a complete consensus. If you are an educator you should know this.

There are serious downsides to the phonics system of teaching - the whole Rose report was built on shaky foundations to start with and the inevitable results reveal this. Check the results - as divided by demographic - of the first strategic release.

The issues outlined above are a serious setback to many teachers. These are mainly the result of policy.

MarshaMelrose · 20/03/2023 13:53

Soontobe60 · 20/03/2023 13:11

More so than protecting the mental health of school staff?

In reality, though, how is this protecting the staff? The inspection is a statutory duty so will take place one way or the other. It's just delaying the inevitable so the staff will be inspected but will now be worrying if they'll be judged even harsher.

No one enjoys being ofsteded. It's like management start to lose their minds. I don't even think it's the best way of seeing how lessons and schools operate. But I don't see how shutting inspectors out benefits anyone's mental health.

wantmorenow · 20/03/2023 13:54

Why is OFSTED bad? Well back in the day all schools were funded, supported and worked collaboratively as part of their LEA. Expertise was shared, LEA advisors were on hand to support and guide teachers from a place of experience and with funding and time allocated for it. I remember get amazing support from my subject advisor as an NQT back in 2004.

Now this system has been pretty much dismantled and OFSTED is all stick and no support. Poor reports are punished by even more hostile measures. Academies are businesses- no more. Experienced teachers are too expensive and managed out with ruthless efficiency, bullying is rife and leaders are cutthroat in pushing their own agendas.

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Maximo2 · 20/03/2023 13:54

SerafinasGoose · 20/03/2023 13:53

No study ever shows a complete consensus. If you are an educator you should know this.

There are serious downsides to the phonics system of teaching - the whole Rose report was built on shaky foundations to start with and the inevitable results reveal this. Check the results - as divided by demographic - of the first strategic release.

The issues outlined above are a serious setback to many teachers. These are mainly the result of policy.

Garbage.