Preferred pronoun labels at childrens event

[StopitSarah]

I took my primary age children to a science event this weekend. It’s run by university students. Almost all of them had their preferred pronouns on their name labels.

AIBU to feel that was unnecessary and to feel a bit uneasy? One of my children wanted to know why “the man is saying we should say he/him. Isn’t that obvious?”

I asked one of the students who said it was to show support to any trans helpers and was for the benefit of the (adult) students, not the children.

I’m SO BORED and irritated by the trans agenda being every-bloody-where.

But AIBU? I had a good chat with one of the students and he said that they’re all science students and understand that woman = biological female is too simplistic. My brain exploded.

@CremeEggQueen students being told to put their pronouns on their name labels to make the trans/non binary students feel ok (I saw one they/them only). No.

You don't know they've "been told."
They could be wanting to do it themselves out of support.

@CremeEggQueen I do know that they were told to do it. I asked them.

The Taliban hate women but they don't force girls to change in the presence of men who are pretending to be women
Jeez if I was coming out in defence of the Taliban I'd seriously be stepping back and rethinking myself, honestly WTF is wrong with this place lately

I assume that the students that told you that science backs up the trans argument are referring to some recent studies of brain scans.

They showed that the brain patterns of trans people were far more closely aligned to their 'chosen' gender than their birth one. It's an actual biological indicator. Saying 'you can't change sex' may we'll be true but some people are born with neurological differences that mean they suffer from gender dysmorphia.

Maybe you ought to have enquired a little deeper when he mentioned scientific evidence? BTW, never heard the term 'gender critical' before. Sounds a bit like 'white separatist'.

They presumably told you that they had their arms twisted behind their backs or given a wedgie if they didn't comply?
Or that they were told asked to wear them and so did as they didn't mind.
Just like if I was told asked to wear one I probably would as it doesn't matter to me either way.

Lol! Good one!

You’re talking nonsense.

For anyone wanting to read up on lady brains and man brains following Quizzly’s assertion

www.transgendertrend.com/brain-research/

You should complain, OP. There are two views: Gender ID and Gender Critical. By wearing pronoun badges (therefore espousing Gender ID) the students are representing the University as having a partisan, non-neutral position. That is not a good look for a public institution. And, as others have said, why this hobby-horse; why don't the badges also include their political affiliation, their religion, their sexuality...
You could also mention that you - a member of the public - are saying this because you know that many staff within academia are too afraid to raise the matter themselves because of the McCarthyism surrounding trans ideology.

We all know that people can’t really change the sex they were born as.
Demanding that everyone accepts a trans person personal belief without question is unrealistic.

It’s indoctrination.

They showed that the brain patterns of trans people were far more closely aligned to their 'chosen' gender than their birth one. It's an actual biological indicator. Saying 'you can't change sex' may we'll be true but some people are born with neurological differences that mean they suffer from gender dysmorphia.

Prove it.

For a start, no-one has a “birth gender”. It’s your sex and it’s determined at conception, not birth.

Gender identity is a concept. So those of us who don’t believe in it are not obliged to “play along”. Even well-established religions do not require the level of acquiescence that gender ideologues do. We all know it’s not real, including the gender zealots themselves which is why they protest so much

brain patterns

Well that's it then. No arguing with the science.

There was someone at work actually, seemed nice enough. And there's plenty of people around ... unlike angels ... your analogy makes no sense

A man identifying as a woman doesn’t mean he magically turns into one @Busybutbored.

Saying 'you can't change sex' may well be true but
But what? If someone has "neurological differences" in their brain why do I have to accommodate it? David Icke thinks that we are rules by Illuminati Lizards. Do I have to go along with that, too?
Why do you think that transpeoples' beliefs should be enforced on other people?

BTW, never heard the term 'gender critical' before. Sounds a bit like 'white separatist'.
Nice try but you overplayed it. How on earth do you go from "never heard of this" to "it must be <insert smear here>". Ever heard of literary criticism? Film critics? Have you got a smear-name for them, too.
For the hard of critical-thinking, Gender Critical means "Gender questioning or analysing". Asking questions that, for some reason, are never answered.

That's an article from a highly biased source (a specifically anti-trans website). If you search any scientific or scholarly articles, you ok find they disagree entirely.

Try Science Daily; www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

Or Scientific American; www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

Nature.com; www.nature.com/articles/s41386-020-0666-3

I could go on. Pasting your link from an anti trans activism page does dilute your rebuttal.

The starting point here would be to prove that men and women have different brain patterns. That hasn’t been done yet so the “research” is worthless.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00677-x

Wonderful news! No need for any more detransitioners then, no more liars using it as an excuse to access women’s sport or prisons, now to diagnose someone as trans, we can just do a brain scan, right?

So events are being run with a secret hidden
agenda ie the attempt to confuse genders in the minds of children. You came for science and you got this halfwittery.
Organisers of these events should be obliged to include a warning on advertising material that trans ideology is being promoted so that people can choose whether to expose their children to it.

I suppose they would argue that if they don't, your kids might grow up repressing their true feelings and thinking it's wrong or disgusting to be gay or trans.

😂

How is other people choosing to wear stickers intolerant to you?

They're not wearing stickers saying "We hate gender critical people". They're not forcing you to wear a sticker.

They are simply wearing a sticker stating their own preferred pronoun that they would like to be addressed by.

How on earth is that intolerant of you?

BTW, never heard the term 'gender critical' before. Sounds a bit like 'white separatist'
Agree, or ",race realist,"
Just another euphemism for bigotry

Of all the bad shit happening in the world right now and the many, many ways that actually biologicall women and girls are being oppressed, actually as we speak ...

Stating you believe in biology and dismissing pronouns as nonsenses is intolerant.

Ok

I only know one trans person and they don't like the expectation to display pronouns on their email etc ... To them it should be obvious they are the gender they present as and to display their pronouns is a bit like saying they don't look like the gender they are. I hadn't thought of it like that before. I don't know how common this view is but worth thinking about.

Surely there's a spectrum and not all of 'them' are evil and out to get women? Also what about females who believe they are males? Who would really choose this life? It seems horrible