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AIBU?

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To think this may be psychosis?

185 replies

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:26

My daughters dad started acting strangely the past few days. We are not together but the past few nights we have spent time together. He has turned up at my house the past few nights and has been...odd to say the least.

He seems kind of manic…not making much sense to me…speaking in very strange ways. He keeps speaking about ‘his shadow’ and power and trauma and things like that.

Speaking really fast, jumping from topic to topic, struggling to really grasp what he means and keep up. He says he feels great and isn’t taking drugs etc. He keeps speaking about protecting me and our daughter and that we are a family and how he is willing to give up his power and give it to me and daughter. He says that he's glad I I've realised to, but doesn't tell me or can't explain what I've realised. He says we need to teach our daughter before she starts academy, but doesn't tell me what we've to teach her. Very vague but yet very deep - doesn't really make sense.

He said his friend sent him a song that he believes is a personal attack on him. Listened to the song and there was nothing attacking about it at all.

He said someone at jizitsu called him a ‘cock’ under his breath whilst they were having a conversation. I said I’m sure he didn’t call you that but he was positive the guy did. He said that if you really listen you can hear what people are thinking.

I'm really quite worried but he swears he is the happiest he's ever been and he is all huggy and smily. But it's really been strange listening to him.

No hallucinations he says. AIBU?

OP posts:
Blueuggboots · 17/03/2023 23:27

Yes, sounds like psychosis or a manic episode in bipolar.

SalmonKnicks · 17/03/2023 23:27

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Cosycover · 17/03/2023 23:28

This sounds very much like psychosis to me yes. It's very worrying.

Are you sure there are no drugs involved?

UndertheCedartree · 17/03/2023 23:31

Yes, that sounds like psychosis. Is there anyway you can get him to the GP?

Blanchedsocks · 17/03/2023 23:32

My ex did similar _ I’m taking all your positive energy. Don’t touch me I’m full of negative. Mushrooms.

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

I have had several episodes of psychosis. This sounds very like it. He is likely to get worse, get violent and a danger to himself or others. He doesn't mean to.
He will be impossible to reason with or get to see that he is ill. My poor parents and poor DH have had to trick me into hospital several occasions. It's horrendous all round but the only safe place to be. Personally I would contact the police and say that you are very concern for him and explain what you did above. They will need a location from you. If he is seen he might talk his way out of it (I managed to get out of a prison abroad once and convince the British Embassy people that I had been wrongly arrested (I was sectioned 24 hours later running naked thought th capital!).

Its a tough thing to do, and given your relationship I would not say who you are and deny all knowledge to him just that you are a concerned citizen.

If he is ill and sectioned he might be ill for months and will find life tough. The sooner he is seen the better.

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

Blueuggboots · 17/03/2023 23:27

Yes, sounds like psychosis or a manic episode in bipolar.

These are the same thing.

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:33

Cosycover · 17/03/2023 23:28

This sounds very much like psychosis to me yes. It's very worrying.

Are you sure there are no drugs involved?

He's a frequent marijuana user

OP posts:
doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:34

UndertheCedartree · 17/03/2023 23:31

Yes, that sounds like psychosis. Is there anyway you can get him to the GP?

He actually said he would go to a psychiatrist with me to prove he was fine. His pupils were also dilated.

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Toomuchtoolong · 17/03/2023 23:35

Drug induced psychosis/ paranoia and altered thoughts due to cannabis use!

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:35

Oh he also said the other week he had to fight the urge to walk out on to the street naked.

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doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:35

He said it very casually as if it were normal

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BeGentlePeeps · 17/03/2023 23:37

Are you in a space (physically and mentally) to keep an eye on him?

Cosycover · 17/03/2023 23:38

How much weed does he smoke?

He very much needs help before it gets too late. It's really hard to help though if he doesn't see that there is anything wrong.

I really feel for you. Its an impossible situation.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 17/03/2023 23:39

Get him out of your house OP.Lock the door behind him.

This is not safe behaviour, you must protect yourself and your children.

Please.

BeGentlePeeps · 17/03/2023 23:39

BeGentlePeeps · 17/03/2023 23:37

Are you in a space (physically and mentally) to keep an eye on him?

I mean tonight, just now….

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:40

Blueuggboots · 17/03/2023 23:27

Yes, sounds like psychosis or a manic episode in bipolar.

This is exactly what I thought as well.

Brandyb · 17/03/2023 23:40

Do you challenge him and say you don't need protecting, drawing into this scheme etc? Then what?
But yes this all sounds very similar to when my best friend had a psychotic episode and went "weird," paranoid, either accusing or conspiring. She had a spell in Bethlem and then got medicated and since then she's been my friend again, for decades.

Cosycover · 17/03/2023 23:43

I wouldn't allow him access to your daughter alone for now either. Not until he recognises he has issues and gets help.

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:44

Brandyb · 17/03/2023 23:40

Do you challenge him and say you don't need protecting, drawing into this scheme etc? Then what?
But yes this all sounds very similar to when my best friend had a psychotic episode and went "weird," paranoid, either accusing or conspiring. She had a spell in Bethlem and then got medicated and since then she's been my friend again, for decades.

Yes but then he answers in riddles and things that I don't understand. He believes he is enlightened and has cracked the secret of life.

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Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:45

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

These are the same thing.

No they are not the same thing. Psychosis is a separate disorder from Bipolar. Both have psychotic features but how/when they manifest is quite different. Bipolar only get psychosis when in a manic state. Psychotics get psychosis randomly. The sorts of things they see and hear tend to have commonalities within each illness.

Lots of other mental illnesses also have psychotic features to them- Post Partum Psychosis, Psychotic Depression, Schizophrenia of the top of my head.

There is also drug induced psychosis which isn’t a mental illness and has been mentioned as a valid possibility since the OP updated with his drug use.

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:46

He has now left, so I can't keep an eye on him. Daughter is with me obviously. He wasn't being aggressive in the slightest. In fact was being overly nice, told me he loves me, he will always protect us and was listening and asking questions. However would then start going on again about his shadow. Kept saying that he is a monster and is capable of terrible things but he has accepted that and is trying to be kind. I wish I could write exactly what he said but it was so confusing I can hardly make enough sense of it to write it here

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Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:47

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 17/03/2023 23:39

Get him out of your house OP.Lock the door behind him.

This is not safe behaviour, you must protect yourself and your children.

Please.

This isn’t needed unless he starts behaving aggressively. Instead OP you should call NHS 111 and tell them he’s having a mental health psychotic break and you need a crisis team.

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:48

Where has he gone? He needs medical intervention. People suffering a psychotic episode are at extremely high risk of harming themselves.

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:48

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:34

He actually said he would go to a psychiatrist with me to prove he was fine. His pupils were also dilated.

Tell him he can prove you right at a&e. Go together and explain to the triage nurse that you are there so he can prove he is not I'll just that he is having fast thoughts etc

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