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AIBU?

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To think this may be psychosis?

185 replies

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:26

My daughters dad started acting strangely the past few days. We are not together but the past few nights we have spent time together. He has turned up at my house the past few nights and has been...odd to say the least.

He seems kind of manic…not making much sense to me…speaking in very strange ways. He keeps speaking about ‘his shadow’ and power and trauma and things like that.

Speaking really fast, jumping from topic to topic, struggling to really grasp what he means and keep up. He says he feels great and isn’t taking drugs etc. He keeps speaking about protecting me and our daughter and that we are a family and how he is willing to give up his power and give it to me and daughter. He says that he's glad I I've realised to, but doesn't tell me or can't explain what I've realised. He says we need to teach our daughter before she starts academy, but doesn't tell me what we've to teach her. Very vague but yet very deep - doesn't really make sense.

He said his friend sent him a song that he believes is a personal attack on him. Listened to the song and there was nothing attacking about it at all.

He said someone at jizitsu called him a ‘cock’ under his breath whilst they were having a conversation. I said I’m sure he didn’t call you that but he was positive the guy did. He said that if you really listen you can hear what people are thinking.

I'm really quite worried but he swears he is the happiest he's ever been and he is all huggy and smily. But it's really been strange listening to him.

No hallucinations he says. AIBU?

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Lucylock · 17/03/2023 23:49

Call the police and emergency mental health team. Sounds like he needs to be sectioned.

Mochinated · 17/03/2023 23:50

Cannabis induced psychosis is real and very serious.

It can be brought on by him suddenly stopping taking cannabis, or simply taking a lot of skunk.

Has he been trying to cut down on cannabis?

Really he needs to be kept away from you and DC, he is dangerously ill and cannot be trusted.

Orangepolentacake · 17/03/2023 23:50

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

These are the same thing.

They are absolutely not. One can have mania without psychosis

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:50

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:48

Where has he gone? He needs medical intervention. People suffering a psychotic episode are at extremely high risk of harming themselves.

He's went home

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HappyHolidays22 · 17/03/2023 23:50

Oh OP, come on, you know this isn’t normal, you’ve said it yourself.

Don’t wait for the situation to deteriorate; get help from 999 or at least 111 now before anything turns nasty!

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:51

No hallucinations he says.
When you are in a psychotic episode, you don’t know if you’re seeing an hallucination. So he cannot know if he is hallucinating, because if he is, he will think what he sees or hears is 100% real.

Blazersquad · 17/03/2023 23:54

Could it be cannabis psychosis?

UndertheCedartree · 17/03/2023 23:54

I went through it all with my DC's dad and it is very confusing to understand what is being said. If he's willing to go to a doctor I'd try and get him seen by the GP who can refer to Crisis team or First response. Good luck.

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:55

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:50

He's went home

You should call 999 or at least 111 and ask for a crisis team to go with the police to do a welfare check on him. I mean it’s not unheard of for people to complete suicide because they think they have a demon possessing them and that’s the only way to protect their family. The things he’s been saying really really have me concerned. He has a shadow that is a monster and he’s going to protect you and loves you and has been over nice? And over happy like the evil shadow issue is about to be solved for good? I hope to God I am wrong, but this isn’t something you can ignore.

UndertheCedartree · 17/03/2023 23:56

Onnabugeisha · 17/03/2023 23:51

No hallucinations he says.
When you are in a psychotic episode, you don’t know if you’re seeing an hallucination. So he cannot know if he is hallucinating, because if he is, he will think what he sees or hears is 100% real.

That isn't always quite true. Sometimes you can not be sure if it's real or not.

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:57

I just sent this and received that message back from him. If I call 111 will they go out?

To think this may be psychosis?
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BeGentlePeeps · 17/03/2023 23:58

Just my own opinion (work in healthcare)…

Agree possibly psychosis but equally, if not more plausible, a bit manic.

Could be drug related- but equally people with mental health demons can mask mania or psychosis by self medication… ie is the weed a cause or affect.

As long as no one was at imminent risk, no voicing of threats of harm to self or others, I would 111 this (and keep your phone switched on) and if you have any contacts for his friends or support group (?family?) ping then to let them know he’s not right.

Sounds like you have had a long and hard evening. Stay strong xxx

Spiderboy · 17/03/2023 23:58

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

These are the same thing.

They absolutely are not so ffs

Sarahcoggles · 18/03/2023 00:00

Is he on his own at home? He sounds psychotic and pretty unwell. This won’t just pass, it’ll get worse and be potentially dangerous for him and/or others. He needs to be assessed tomorrow. Does he have family who could sort this out? Please don’t let your daughter go to him.

doritstew · 18/03/2023 00:01

Sarahcoggles · 18/03/2023 00:00

Is he on his own at home? He sounds psychotic and pretty unwell. This won’t just pass, it’ll get worse and be potentially dangerous for him and/or others. He needs to be assessed tomorrow. Does he have family who could sort this out? Please don’t let your daughter go to him.

Yes, I have contacted his friend and his brother.

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wingingit1987 · 18/03/2023 00:02

I would call nhs24 if England has a mental health option? I know we do in Scotland. Alternatively, you could take him to a&e for assessment if he is willing to go. If you have immediate concerns about his safety or the safety of others and don’t think he will attend a&e with you for assessment, call the police.

BeGentlePeeps · 18/03/2023 00:04

doritstew · 18/03/2023 00:01

Yes, I have contacted his friend and his brother.

Good job.

I don’t think there is much more you can do at this stage. Honestly.

Except go to bed and get some rest. And pick this up again tomorrow if situation hadn’t changed or moved forwards.

Onnabugeisha · 18/03/2023 00:04

UndertheCedartree · 17/03/2023 23:56

That isn't always quite true. Sometimes you can not be sure if it's real or not.

Except you only question the reality of things when you know you have psychosis. This man thinks he’s perfectly fine. So he’s not going to question the evidence of his eyes and ears. He might think he could have misheard, but he will always think he did hear a real sound. The same with might have not quite seen clearly, but will not question that there was definitely something there.

Onnabugeisha · 18/03/2023 00:05

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:57

I just sent this and received that message back from him. If I call 111 will they go out?

They should. They will if you, his friend and his brother all call them and express concerns.

BeGentlePeeps · 18/03/2023 00:08

Onnabugeisha · 18/03/2023 00:05

They should. They will if you, his friend and his brother all call them and express concerns.

111 have a designated mental health department. But they are there to stratify ‘risk’ (for serious harm) and deal with those at high risk out of hours.

They would certainly contact you/ him as the basis if that assessment.

Thelnebriati · 18/03/2023 00:09

I'm not trying to scare you, but the fact he is fixated on you and your daughters safety is a red flag. I wouldn't let him back in the house until he has had treatment. He is really not in his right mind and you can't trust his judgement.

Inmyotherlifeiwasan · 18/03/2023 00:14

Seek help , well spotted. Likely psychosis. Medical attention required urgently .

fantasmasgoria1 · 18/03/2023 00:17

My sibling has paranoid schizophrenia and has psychotic episodes. This sounds so much like it.

Irritateandunreasonable · 18/03/2023 00:23

Adrelaxzz · 17/03/2023 23:32

These are the same thing.

Having experienced both I would say that it’s not.

Irritateandunreasonable · 18/03/2023 00:25

doritstew · 17/03/2023 23:57

I just sent this and received that message back from him. If I call 111 will they go out?

They are not going to do anything unless he or someone else is at risk of physical harm.