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Will relocating solve our problems? Or just create new ones...

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RainbowRuby · 14/03/2023 13:07

My partner moved here from the US in 2010 – we met shortly after and married. He never really adjusted to London or the UK, he feels lonely, like an outsider and all in all hopeless. On the face of it, our lives have progressed very well after a lot of struggle. Slowly moved up the ladder in our careers (after a lot of setbacks), managed to buy a flat in London, two gorgeous healthy kids and our latest ‘success’ has been moving out to a commuter town outside of London to our dream house, with great schools. However, behind closed doors, my partner’s feeling of loneliness and being a misfit in the UK has never eased and also recently been exacerbated by a highly toxic work environment. Now that all the visible ‘challenges’ are behind us – getting a house, moving up in our careers etc, this remains the elephant in the room that is getting harder to avoid. His depression (he is on medication/CBT) is getting worse. We/he have tried for years to move back to the US – but for some reason or the other it just hasn’t worked out. His desperation is heart-breaking. He doesn’t want to quit his job and just go to the US to look for a job (reasons being he is not comfortable with the financial instability that would bring), he has tried for years to secure a job from here but it seems to fizzle out in the last round (which has really damaged his self-confidence as well) and he feels we are too far deep in (have a house, both of us working, my parents live nearby). I feel so stuck – I want to ask him to quit his job and just go and we well follow. Am I being naïve to think if we move to a place where he feels he ‘belongs’ his mental health will improve? That we can just go out on a whim and find jobs and restart our lives at the age of 40? Our kids are 5 and 8.

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eirlaw · 14/03/2023 16:41

recently been exacerbated by a highly toxic work environment.

When I had this it was a massive mental strain - same when DH had it as well.

We had a friend in a high paying job he hated he used to dream/come up with odd plans like running a B&B in middle nowhere - no experience and no concrete plans just a way to cope he eventually left that job and was much happier.

I'm also surprised at California is being consider, though I suppose it is a large state, as many are apparently leaving due to high housing costs, high crime, high numbers of homeless and major concerns with public schooling.

I'd suggest him trying to change UK jobs first and talk to GP about other treatment options - and if still keen on USA do a lot of research on what it's currently like.

dragonbreaths · 14/03/2023 16:51

I hated where I lived with my husband in his hometown in England. Made me really depressed. We've moved to rural Wales which is much more like my homeland and upbringing (rural, sheep, rugby, friendly) and we all love it here. best thing decision we have made.

RainbowRuby · 14/03/2023 16:51

eirlaw · 14/03/2023 16:41

recently been exacerbated by a highly toxic work environment.

When I had this it was a massive mental strain - same when DH had it as well.

We had a friend in a high paying job he hated he used to dream/come up with odd plans like running a B&B in middle nowhere - no experience and no concrete plans just a way to cope he eventually left that job and was much happier.

I'm also surprised at California is being consider, though I suppose it is a large state, as many are apparently leaving due to high housing costs, high crime, high numbers of homeless and major concerns with public schooling.

I'd suggest him trying to change UK jobs first and talk to GP about other treatment options - and if still keen on USA do a lot of research on what it's currently like.

I think if we seriously consider it, Cali will fall off the list. Right now he is 'resigned' to his fate of never moving out of the UK. Seeing him so despondent has had me thinking - should I push for this more. Hoping his efforts to change job materialise. He is genuinely trying. Interesting point on the B&B - he regularly comments about 'escaping', leaving it all behind... Sigh. This post is a such a desperate call for help for me. But leaves me thinking - what is the actual 'help' we need.

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RainbowRuby · 14/03/2023 16:55

dragonbreaths · 14/03/2023 16:51

I hated where I lived with my husband in his hometown in England. Made me really depressed. We've moved to rural Wales which is much more like my homeland and upbringing (rural, sheep, rugby, friendly) and we all love it here. best thing decision we have made.

Your post made me smile. Happy to hear of good outcomes when risks are taken! :)

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Knitterofcrap · 14/03/2023 17:03

If you all move to US and he is still depressed and unhappy, you might split up.

Then you will be stuck there, unable to return back to UK with the DC unless he agrees to it.

Far too risky in my view.

carpool · 14/03/2023 18:01

Your husband has a medical condition. It doesn't matter what you do you can't 'fix' him. It also isn't your job to 'fix' him. Some people suffer from depression just like others have asthma or diabetes - they have to learn to manage it. it is his responsibility to do this, not yours to move heaven and earth to somehow magically make it go away. Be supportive - yes, but supportive of his efforts.

Newestname002 · 14/03/2023 18:55

@RainbowRuby

What plays on my mind is that will the kids have better life options/choices over there vs the UK?

I saw the costs of healthcare mentioned - but have you looked into the cost of education for your children (high school, college/university)? 🌹

Ellie56 · 16/03/2023 11:30

I think your answers to other people's posts show you are not sold on the idea of going to America either for you or the kids, and you have considerable doubts over whether it will actually work for your husband either, as his depression is unlikely to lift as soon as he gets off the plane.

With such doubts I would not entertain moving, especially with children who are happy and settled where they are. It is too big a risk. It is not just about your husband. It is about the rest of the family too.

At the moment you have one unhappy person, one reasonably happy person and two happy little people. What happens if you get to America and your husband finds it was all a pipe dream and reality bears no relation to it? Your husband's mental health will not improve, all that stress and upheaval will have been for nothing, you will be far away from all your friends and support network, and no one will be happy.

I think you need to knock the idea of moving to America on the head and focus on getting the right treatment and professional support for your husband. Get the GP to sign him off for an extended period from the toxic job and then concentrate on investigating other therapies and treatments, psychiatrists/ counsellors etc as what he has at the moment is obviously not working. Then look for a less stressful job, even it pays less, in the UK.

Totalwasteofpaper · 16/03/2023 11:43

There is no way on earth i would consider moving based on what you have written.

Youd be indulging your husband and not only your expenses but your children's

Moving is not going to fix what your DH has got and i going to create a raft of logostical problems before you even start on the impact it will have on your kids

I'd be spending my money on different therapists / therapy as whatever he has going on doesnt sound like it's working for him

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