How much do you think junior doctors should be paid per hour

[Jill688]

you are being unreasonable - they should be paid £14/hr

you are not being unreasonable - they should be paid more

And they should be able to work fewer hours

Junior Dr feels like a £35k starting wage at least.

What level/years experience junior doctor are we taking about?

I’ve just checked and a newly qualified teacher earns £28k, which makes my £35k guess seem low now.

It’s not just about salary. You could pay them £50 an hour bit if theyre expected to work a 60 hour week thats unacceptable.

First year out of uni 30k for a 36 hour week, take away their responsibility so they’re supernumerary. From then on a pay scale up to about 65/70k before consultant level would feel right. Would also add antisocial hours into this.

Also - free parking for clinical staff, and exams/training/professional insurance fees all covered by the NHS.

I would also potentially allow them to opt out of the nhs pension scheme and opt into nest instead in exchange for higher pay now.

I would like more doctors so they can work reasonable hours and have reasonable workloads. A 60 hour week on a regular basis is not reasonable.

I don't think it's the wage in itself that's an issue, it's just the really shite cherry on the top. Lorry drivers have limits on how much they're allowed to drive on a daily / weekly / fortnightly basis plus mandatory regular breaks as it's not safe for them to drive more than that, but doctors are apparently safe to treat multiple patients at a time without even a toilet break at the end of an 11 hour shift 👍🏻

Agreed.

@Hollyhead

So who does the job that junior doctors do now if they're supernumery?

Friends son comes home occasionally he's a junior doctor now. His skin is grey and spotty, he's put on loads of weight. He's wrecked health-wise. I've known him since he was a little boy who was very sporty. Just want to give him an extra hug these days

The term junior doctor applies to any fully qualified doctor.

They have finished 5/6 years of medical school and are still called junior doctors even after having 10+ years experience.

So even though they are called junior doctors, they are very much working doctors. They are out there every day: delivering babies, performing operations, doing life saving procedures in A&E, as well as seeing people in clinics, wards and on our intensive care units.

The most senior junior doctors are often in charge of running the hospital overnight/ out of hours.

Pilots have strictly applied limits too, which should offer you some comfort the next time you’re off to Torremolinos for a bit of sunshine and cheap sangria.

The people who fixed the metal tube that you’re flying in at 35,000ft though- not so much.

At the moment it is 29K starting salary

This amounts to £14/hr

NHS should cover fees in return for x amount of years working solely for NHS with a reasonable contract,higher starting point,better conditions

They are paid more than enough. Perhaps there should be a limit on how many hours they can work both in a day and in a week. But I am sick of their whinging and misrepresenting of how much they earn, comparing their wage to that of Pret workers is just insulting.

I'm fine with them getting a pay rise. Current UK average pay rise is 6.4%. Give them that.

They want a 35% pay rise - which is just ridiculous

I don't think they're paid enough and think they shouldn't have to pay uni fees as long as they work for the NHS for 10 years say?

They should prob be on the same as a bottom band 7

Not really. Pret workers are paid more and haven’t accumulated 5/6 years of student debt. These are highly qualified professionals. Why shouldn’t they demand a higher wage than a barista?

At the moment there will be junior doctors in my department on a lower hourly rate than I pay my cleaner. Which really doesn't seem appropriate. And agree that people have to remember that you're a junior doctor until the day before you're a consultant/GP. Some "junior" doctors are highly experienced.

How much do you pay your cleaner/hr ?

Pret workers have paid £250k for each doctor to qualify though.

We all have to start from the bottom... Doctors included.

Yes that’s my point. You asked what should a junior doctor be paid but there’s a huge range of experience of junior doctors so we can’t answer the question unless you specify. Do you mean what should the starting salary be? Or how much an experienced junior doctor should be paid?