To think this is insensitively worded, to say the least?

[KimberleyClark]

From the website of the Royal Osteoporosis Society

theros.org.uk/latest-news/international-women-s-day-let-s-end-the-ageist-stereotypes-that-fuel-the-most-insidious-women-s-health-condition/?_gl=114hsiyd_up*MQ..&gclid=Cj0KCQjwk7ugBhDIARIsAGuvgPboftpiYL9EHStxq48v0H5lLUXvpcznG4Nt93uHDTN9RmPFxGS6j2QaAqj8EALw_wcB

“Most are surprised to hear it affects a half of all women over 50. That’s every other mother. Every other grandmother. And it’s serious. More so than people think: as many people die from its complications as from lung cancer or diabetes. So why is nobody talking about it?“

Do women with osteoporosis who aren’t mothers or grandmothers not count?

Childfree poster here - I would assume this was a targeted campaign for Mother's Day and not really think anything of the way it was worded.

Maybe you need help visualising what half of all women means, but I find that a very straightforward concept. Hence it is patronising that apparently a further explanation is required. I bet the men don’t need that extra help understanding what half of or 50% means.

And as a childless woman, I also do find it slightly annoying that childless women are erased from the narrative.

Why do people need language to be all-inclusive all the time? Childfree women jumping on the R.O.S. for this small snippet are as annoying as trans people demanding we use language such as 'humans with a womb'.

You know what applies to you and what doesn't, stop being so demanding and offended all the time.

That’s a good point, about Mother’s Day timing.

It’s not saying:

• 50% of the population are mothers

It’s saying:

• 50% of mothers have osteoporosis

You could pick any group of women, and realise that 50% of will have it.
You could say, “50% of your netball team will” or even “50% of mumsnetters will” (running with an assumption that we are all female posters for effect, as it is à predominantly female site)

It is not a commentary on whether this OP matters, for not being a mother.

I dont have children. I once saw a news report on the lunchtime news about the links between uterine cancer rates and age of having children. Something like your risk of getting cancer increases according to the age you were when having children. Quite a long wordy report about mothers which I didn't pay a lot of attention to because, not having children, it didn't concern me. Then at the end, the reporter said the brezy, last throwaway sentence of, "but they can console themselves that none of them have as high a risk as women with no children".

I did a double take at the telly. WTF. They didnt even bother covering figures for childless women. Just that people can be relieved they're not us. Childfree women really are treated as the low of the low in our society.

It's very clumsily worded, for a professional organisation.
It looks like it's been written by someone who isn't very bright.

This

Haha, no it isn't! It's nothing like!
Childless/childfree women ARE women! We're not pretending to be women!
What the hell do we have in common with trans people?
If an illness affects 50% of all women, we are included in those statistics!

This.

Trans people wanting inclusive language around child birth, periods, smear tests; childfree women moaning about an awareness campaign ran over mother's day not being inclusive of childfree women. Same difference to me. 2 groups of people that need to bore off and stop demanding all language be inclusive of every single denominator.

I don’t need help visualising anything, thanks. I work with statistics, so just making the point that some times examples are used to help people visualise what percentages mean, though 50% is pretty obvious. The language used seems to be an effort to humanise numbers, make it mean something personal to you...your mother, your grandmother. It would be a bit daft if they said half of mothers, grandmothers, childless women, sisters, aunts, nieces, trans men, female shop workers, female fork lift truck drivers, Jane who works at the library....The article does say “all” women, so doesn’t need to list them all.

If you think the two groups are one and the same, you're utterly bonkers.

Yes, shut up, single childfree women. How DARE you get irked about being apparently excluded from a PR awareness campaign about a disease that affects women?

That was sarcasm, BTW. Just in case anyone thinks I agree with @RosettaTheGardenFairy

To me they are the same when it comes to moaning about language.

PP posted it's not about everyone being a mother/grandmother but everyone having a mother/grandmother... to which OP responded 'but my mother/grandmother are dead so it doesn't appeal to me'...

Give it a rest. Stop moaning about language not including every possible person and scenario. Just stop complaining and live your life. It's so damn dull.

This is a fantastic charity trying to raise awareness of a disease which significantly impacts more women than men, and all you can do is grump that it doesn't appeal directly to you.

I read it more in the 'It could be your mother' vein. It's a bit tired these days, but it doesn't bother (childless) me.

You sound like one angry and stressed out woman. Sorry, I mean mother...😅

This isn't an awareness campaign run over mothers day, it clearly states it relates to International Women's Day. Last time I checked, women without children are still women. So fuck off with your suggestion that it's on a par with men pretending to be women.

On the contrary I'm a very chilled out happy woman, which is why I think the world would be a better place if people stopped putting energy into moaning about not being explicitly included all language. Just enjoy life, be happy and stop complaining about the small stuff.

The comparison I made with trans people is that you're all just a bunch of boring people moaning about not being included in every piece of language. Stop complaining about something so trivial.

Just enjoy life, be happy and stop complaining about the small stuff.

....at the end of a comment that is just one big moan...

YANBU.

It's not half of every mother or grandmother for starters as a significant proportion of women don't ever have kids. So it's literally inaccurate.

And yes, it's pretty offensive tbh. First it's about 'all women' and then strange how it focuses solely on those who've become parents. It says a lot about the way older women are seen by society tbh.

And that's what trans people say...

What, all of them? Stop now, you're embarrassing yourself.