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Upset at the way my niece & nephew treat my dcs

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Mommymoments · 11/03/2023 13:29

DH & I live in Cardiff with our 3 dc who go to a Welsh speaking school, they love it.
I'm from rural Wales & go back quite often to visit my parents. My brother lives in the village still with his wife & kids. Their dc are similar ages to mine. We met up with them last night & they were so nasty to my dc.

Firstly they were slagging off their school, saying how much they hated the Welsh language & would prefer to jump off a cliff than go to dc's school.

Slagged my dc's off for going to a Welsh language camp during half term saying they spend their holidays relaxing not doing stupid camps.

Anything my dc said they liked they hated eg Harry Styles!

Really annoying, my DH & his wife just smirk. My dc's are a bit crestfallen & confused at how resentful they are... My mum also picked up on it & put it down to hormones.
They also seem to hate Cardiff with a passion even though they've only been their a couple of times..
Aibu to just do our own thing when we visit my parents & try to avoid them. My parents are late 60s, completely self sufficient so no bitterness about us not "helping".
My parents help my brothers kids with childcare etc, are very active. The family just seem to resent us.

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Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 09:12

@JMSA thank you for the reply. We've plans with my parents today so will be avoiding them before we head home. We'll be down again at Easter but we'll keep ourselves busy.

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Changingdetailasthisisawkward · 12/03/2023 09:19

Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 01:09

@Murdoch1949 thank you so much. Yes as of today we're keeping them at arms length. It's not a nice feeling but I need to put my dc's first.

When I had a similar-ish situation I also spoke to DC to reassure them they were not in the wrong, the nastiness was probably driven by jealousy that was uncalled for and to try to ensure none of the negativity stuck.

sorry you all had to go through this.

RoxTen · 12/03/2023 09:19

You posted after the Roblox event? Why are you expecting anything to change? Just avoid them.

alittleprivacy · 12/03/2023 10:11

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 11/03/2023 18:18

I missed your post when I wrote mine, @MzHz , and your words are far better than mine!

As a side note, I’m learning Welsh on duolingo, for fun, and today I learned how to say “Owen’s night club sells parsnips”. Is it just me, or is this a phrase that won’t be particularly useful to anyone? It does seem to be a bit of a thing with duolingo - I can also say “The angry old men do not hit the drunk parrots” in Latin. Equally useful, I’m sure you’ll agree. Confused

Duolingo is odd. Despite my childhood antipathy to learning Irish, I've been doing it on Duolingo for years and once had to translate the sentence; "Siúlann an t-iasc ar an bhféar." Which means: "The fish walks on the grass." Needless to say I got it wrong.

billy1966 · 12/03/2023 11:00

Well done for pointing out to your children that they do not have to accept any rudeness.
Give them a couple of simple replys to have.

Tell your mother NOT to make any plans including them while you visit.

Explain that you will be monitoring things.
That if the only thing they have to offer is rudeness then best not to be around them to AVOID a big falling out.

Stress to your mother that you would like to avoid a falling out, but will not tolerate your brother and SIL smirking while their children are rude and unkind AGAIN.

So best to take lots of space until THEY find their manners.

Be wary of your mother trying to force contact.

Encourage your parents to visit you too.

My children enjoy their cousins but in this situation space is best if all they are is unkind.

It sends an awful message to children within a family dynamic about what they should tolerate.

Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 11:22

@billy1966 I've already said it to my mum. She keeps saying teenage hormones even though none of them are teenagers 🤷‍♀️ I have booked Sunday lunch for Easter & my parents are more than welcome to come. They usually do an Easter lunch for the family but we want to do our own thing now.

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billy1966 · 12/03/2023 11:35

So unfortunately your mother is choosing to stick to her untrue narrative ahead of your childrens wellbeing.

You need to point that out to her and that she may choose to excuse this with a ridiculous hormone narrative, you will not accept that.

They live close by and this may be your mother choosing your brothers children ahead of yours.

Be prepared for that.

All you can do is have your boundaries for your family and your children.

Hopefully taking space might help things to calm down.

Simply put, if visiting isn't enjoyable, best to dramatically reduce time spent together and hopefully their children might grow out of their behaviour.

In the interim time, your children won't be punching bags for their rudeness.

Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 11:41

@billy1966 yes still saying about the hormones but she did witness it which I'm glad about.
We all enjoy coming to my parents very much. There is alot to do locally & my parents are great company. We'll just keep ourselves busy over the Easter weekend & won't reach out to db's & his family.
It's times like this that I'm so grateful for mumsnet. I was so pissed off yesterday & really appreciated the support. X.

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EmmaDilemma5 · 12/03/2023 11:46

Sounds like they're repeating what they hear their parents say.

I bet you're brother's jealous.

I would definitely avoid. Personally, I'd also message my brother and ask him to have a word with his kids as they were rude and you found their attitude quite embarrassing.

Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 12:29

@EmmaDilemma5 yes that's what I think too**. It's an incredibly insular attitude to be passing onto their dc & won't do them any favours in the future.

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Mommymoments · 12/03/2023 22:31

pattihews · 11/03/2023 17:05

DH is a native Welsh speaker & it has served him very well in his career but he doesn't push it too much with the dc. They watch English TV, read English books etc but their school is all through Welsh. However as other posters suggested above I think he should start speaking to the dc in Welsh whenever we need to be in db's family's company.

Okay, OP. Personally I think if the others aren't confident Welsh speakers it would be really unhelpful for your DH to speak Welsh as a way of winding the family up.

I think the point made by a PP that your nieces and nephews have to learn Welsh as a despised compulsory extra language and are probably as disengaged from it as they are French or Spanish was very pertinent. They just don't see Welsh as important, and you do and they don't get it and they think you and your children are weird and different — which is how most young people feel about people they don't understand.

I hesitate to go there, but if you and your husband are nationalists and the brother and his family aren't, that's probably something else that is discussed — and possibly not very respectfully — in front of the children. I'm not saying that that excuses rudeness, but it may explain some aspects of their behaviour. Obviously the kids ought to be able to get on with each other. So why aren't your BIL and SIL wading in and insisting on politeness?

What do you think they think of you and your husband?

To be honest I never gave a thought to what they think of us..

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