Did I just hear Sunak promise to investigate inappropriate and unsafe sex education in school?

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Did I just hear Sunak promise to investigate inappropriate and unsafe sex education in school?

I don't really listen to priminister questions, but I was just channel hopping waiting for the kettle to boil

So IABU to dance a little dance?

YABU - no you misheard, he didn't say that/ he said it but it is meaningless

YANBU - yes you heard it, yes it means something, dance away

Ah, so you are saying that Rishi didn't support the policies of the previous governments that he was a part of and the manifesto he got elected on. Certainly and interesting way of rewriting history.

Agree, but children being told more than this is not fine, which is what several reports have disclosed of late, usually using materials produced by activist groups.

If Rishi wants to attempt to be re-elected,he would be wise not to consider doing this. People want and need action and answers.

I’m not a Tory. I think it’s just pretty obvious that’s what he is going to do. That’s the only thing he can do. Both Liz Truss and Boris Johnson are easy targets for that kind of message. It’s very obvious if you look at the actions of his government- NI protocol, loathsome small boats legislation - that he sitting out his stall now to say I’ve started to turn the tide, now give me more time to finish the job. Think it’s a fairly obvious strategy.

@Treehappy.. What companies are the dodgy ones.

I'm horrified by the dice

No Outsiders

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Jigsaw

That’s appalling but not shocking’ cos this pernicious crap is so pervasive now. The problem is many teachers have also received training from these lobby groups, and then pass this onto children. A junior school teacher I know came back absolutely buzzing about the fascinating training in gender she’s had and how she had learnt how gender identity is formed in the womb.

I went to a talk by two child psychologists who said they have had to remind some schools of the guidance they are obliged to follow. They gave an example of a junior school teaching about what makes someone a boy or a girl, and using sex based stereotypes like ‘boys like blue and football’ and ‘girls like pink and princesses’. It’s pretty clear which current social movement had been in to give training to those teachers.

Yes, enthusiastic consent.

Why don’t you like the concept of pleasure being part of that? ( genuine question, I’m trying to work out my own thinking on all this).

There was an excellent post on pleasure by @PearCrumbleCustard which I completely agree with and is very well phrased. Did you read it? Think it’s a few pages back now.

Wtf is breath play??

I agree with @PearCrumbleCustard

’Personally I think sex education should be standardized and come from Public Health and Child Safeguarding - it needs to be through a central think tank, evidence based, widely consulted on and thoroughly followed up with evaluation.’

My DD’s primary school buys its PSHE curriculum from an independent company. The school isn’t allowed to share the slides with parents for ‘copyright’ reasons. This creates a real risk. The school did allow me to read the slides on their premises after I scheduled a meeting and one slide was removed because I had concerns about its content (which the Head agreed with). It was clear that the school had just purchased this content with reading it all first. I worry about what will be taught in secondary school. There should be a set appropriate curriculum.

Choking with a cutsey name.🙄

@Vebrithien thanks she actually has sex Ed all day tomorrow

www.google.com/amp/s/safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2020/10/25/new-ssa-uk-guidance-on-schools-rse-and-pshe-resources/amp/

Have a look here - you'll need to download it. See if the RSE provider that your DC's school use, is here, and what they teach.

It is from the Safe Schools Alliance, a wonderful group who work to ensure that resources use in schools, safeguard the children and are evidence based

You're welcome!

Most schools on their website will have a RSE policy, and often name the external provider they use.

There are far more dodgy ones that the three I named. Those are just the ones I have personal experience of.

Have a look at the download I just posted.

I actually teach "Reproduction" in science lessons. It is factual, biology based and does not enter into the remit of pleasure, kink or gender. If a student asks a question, I will endeavour to answer honestly, scientifically and at an age appropriate level.

But, PHSE is taught as a separate subject, and it is here that we see opinion taught as fact.

Excellent post

This has resulted in things like the ' dice game' where different body parts / objects are on two dice and children are told to describe a sex act involving the two items the dice throws up.

I had never heard of the dice game. Now that I have, there aren't enough pearls in the world for me to clutch.

To me that suggests, amongst other examples that have been posted here, that sex ed in schools is rapidly becoming soft (or maybe not so soft) porn in its own right.

So there's been a series of PMQs questions complaining about 'extreme' sex education in schools.

These seem to have been kicked off a think tank founded by Tories Miriam Cates and Danny Kruger.

You will be STUNNED to learn they're not quite as advertised.

Thread:

twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/1633531980733186048?t=ZauBRFxhv2WQRXA9XEuM_g&s=19

Ha, more objections to a review.
If there is nothing untoward, the review will find so.

Personally, I think there should be a national curriculum, delivered by teachers. And parents should be presented with the materials at the beginning of the academic year, and able to opt out.

Anything less and I’d start thinking there is some sort of agenda to get access to children whilst keeping their parents away.

And who would possibly want that? 🤔

Why doesn't Mikey Smith want a review of Sex Education in schools?

Seems odd that he's obsessing over a report rather than focusing on ACTUALLY discovering what is happening in schools and acting accordingly.

The safe school alliance document linked upthread detail a number of rse providers and the various boundary crossing lessons being provided to children without the consent and scrutiny of parents. This includes Educate and Celebrate who would like your children to know that, 'Age is only a number' and that 'Everyone can do what they feel they are able to do, no matter what age they are". You might be unsurprised to learn that the pedophile apologist Peter Tatchel is a patron of this particular provider.

Now tell me, what is the problem with creating an agreed upon and uniform sex education provision across our schools that is transparent and subject to scrutiny again? What's your actual problem with this?

Paedophile, not sure what my autocorrect is playing at.

Yes. I wonder whether we will find there is something to discover about him in the future. Like so many before him...

I presume this is all on the back of the factually incorrect report by the Tory think tank led by Miriam Cates and Danny Kruger??

They provide NO evidence in their report. Just hear say. And those that have fact checked the report can find no evidence of their claims. No where have kids been taught how to safely choke a partner (this claim comes from a website that isn't actually aimed at children and isn't used in any curriculum).

It also contains a section on critical race theory. Make of that what you will.

Also Gendered Intelligence and Stonewall (The Proud Trust has prob already been mentioned)

An organisation called Global Butterflies has replaced Stonewall at the BBC (after the BBC were told that Stonewall were having an unacceptable influence over their impartiality they broke ties with Stonewall and brought in the Butterfly org which are the same but more secretive) - I wonder if they are in schools as well.