To ask if you like the Cockney accent?

[StaceySt]

I've known my partner since our teenage years but we've only got together as a couple since 2021. I had a crush on him when we were teenagers but he then dated someone else in the group. As I got to know him I grew up love his decent, straightforward personality and I realised his accent was very 'Blimey, Guv'nor!' - but I loved it! In the intervening years his accent hasn't been modified at all - my accent is closer to the generic South East England accent FWIW.

Don’t mind a cockney accent. Probably wouldn’t date someone with a cockney accent though. Love Irish accents and Scottish. Liverpool is the worst. Actually, no. Manchester. Really, really unbearable.
but I also can’t bear it when people “arx” things instead of ask. I just want to say “it’s ask!!! Ask, ask, ask!!!”

And breathe…

Nope not for me.

I once went on a date with a cockney who lived in Croydon at the time. He said he’d meet me by the Feathered Horse ….. took me ages to realise he meant the Fairfield Halls 😳🤣

No.

I'm from South London. Love the accent. Love the Scottish accent too, can't stand the scouse accent.

you might need to adjust your thinking.

www.essex.ac.uk/blog/posts/2022/03/11/how-linguistic-prejudice-perpetuates-inequality hoping you can understand it.

I can’t stand scouse either, so insincere! And welsh valleys like Joanna page OMG so annoying! Feels like constantly having your head pecked

Hello @StaceySolomonSwash I can understand that link, thank you.

It’s still nails down a board to hear people say “arx”. And while it might be technically valid, it’s not for me. Not for the vast majority.

I'm not a fan

Try growing up in the SW and try to have people mimic that one! Even actors can’t get it right!

Genuinely did a bit of a snort there!

I'm sarf lahndan (proper sarf) and I can tell the difference between south/east/north London, Essex and Kent. It's difficult to explain but it tends to be subtle vowel sounds, pitch and intonation.

What is an estuary accent? Is it different to cockney?

Estuary is so called because it has spread out along both sides of the Thames Estuary - south Essex and north Kent - displacing the tradtional accents of those areas. Ugly vowel sounds and glottal stops. Often fake, like people who talk 'mockney'. It's not the same as proper old Cockney at all. For an example of proper Cockney, listen to Len Goodman from Strictly. He didn't grow up in the East End, but his family originated there, and he still has the accent.

I'm sarf lahndan (proper sarf) and I can tell the difference between south/east/north London, Essex and Kent. It's difficult to explain but it tends to be subtle vowel sounds, pitch and intonation.

Yes, I agree. And there used to be different accents and dialects in different parts of Kent - North, mid, East. Probably all dying out as the older generations disappear.

I'm a cockney and I can't stand Scouse accents.

Fully aware my accent gives many people the wrong impression but that's their mistake to make.

I am able to talk 'properly' though.

I feel like most of my cockney friends/family are the same. In business situation/parents evening etc we are using rhyming slang and pronounce our Ts.

My husband think it's hilarious when I'm with my school friends (he isn't a Londoner) and will often comment that we sound like Chas n Dave. (In an affectionate way. I mock his accent too!)

No, can’t stand it.

Love Irish accents though.

I'm sarf lahndan (proper sarf) and I can tell the difference between south/east/north London, Essex and Kent. It's difficult to explain but it tends to be subtle vowel sounds, pitch and intonation.

Yes, I agree. And there used to be different accents and dialects in different parts of Kent - North, mid, East. Probably all dying out as the older generations disappear. *

100% agree with the above.* *

I can't describe how I can tell Essex/North Kent accents are different to Cockney.* But even with my accent and family not being annoying to me the Essex accent is. *

Very strange I know!!*

Sez you.

😃

But you are one person. With a potentially racist opinion. But you do you. Have fun.

There are loads of Scottish accents

@StaceySolomonSwash I’ll keep my opinion. It’s shared by pretty much everyone I know. Of many races. I think “arx” is more an indication of class than race.

You want to live on the Isle of Sheppey, Kent... their are many, what I call London Nan" voices to be heard there! I don't mind the accent but the grammar grates, double negatives and " that's what I done" Also hate haitch for a switch 😝

Lol my partner's speech checklist -

Double negatives
Dropped Hs
Ain't for not/won't
Wivvya for with you
Maffs for 'maths' I love it

I used to live in Kent but ever made it to Sheppey

Never * ffs typos !!

I do like an old-skool deadpan cockney voice, like the sort you would have heard in The Sweeney 😊

I'd like to add glottal stops to my below list as in

"What's the ma'er wivvya?"

It's not awful but it's not one of my favourite accents. My favourite UK accents are the accents you hear in the Scottish Highlands.

No