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To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?

805 replies

Icandothattoo · 06/03/2023 19:38

For me
The unending shite that is brexit
Corruption and dishonesty, especially during the pandemic but not uniquely. And not just Johnson.
Making already deprived areas compete against each other for levelling up money whilst perfectly affluent tory voting areas are handed it on a plate (looking at Richmond N yorks Rishi ! ). Funny that 80% of constituencies getting levelling up funds are tory...
Whole culture war. Singling out certain minorities to attack for purely political gain. In the 80s single mums, 90s benefit claimants, 2000s refugees, immigrants. FWIW I'm fairly gender critical but disliked the way they toadied round Trump and his abhorrent opinions/followers who pretty much wrote the culture war playbook.
So what stops you from voting for them ?

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SerendipityJane · 25/05/2023 23:44

verdantverdure · 25/05/2023 21:22

Boris Johnson promised 40 new hospitals in 2019, and Steve Barclay has just promised them again today.

They must think Tory voters are complete spanners.

Doesn't that make it 80 hospitals ?

FatOaf · 26/05/2023 07:03

Doesn't that make it 80 hospitals ?

No, that makes it 0 hospitals. If two liars promise you the same thing you just get nothing twice.

Yorkshirelass04 · 26/05/2023 08:04

My social conscience exceeds that of an invertebrate

verdantverdure · 27/05/2023 19:39

I've looked at what the Tories choosing Liz Truss as PM has done to my pension fund.

verdantverdure · 27/05/2023 23:24

Take your pick:

To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?
To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?
user1471556818 · 27/05/2023 23:32

Social conscious. Human being .

bluebeardswife7 · 28/05/2023 00:33

Because they are a bunch of cunts asset stripping the country.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2023 09:14

That’s unfair @verdantverdure. Accidentally claiming your fines on parliamentary expenses twice and not noticing until a nice journalist points it out to you could happen to anyone. I’m sure we’ve all done it.

SerendipityJane · 28/05/2023 09:22

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2023 09:14

That’s unfair @verdantverdure. Accidentally claiming your fines on parliamentary expenses twice and not noticing until a nice journalist points it out to you could happen to anyone. I’m sure we’ve all done it.

I once invaded Poland by mistake. What am I like ?

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/05/2023 09:29

You did muck up a bit there as Douglas Murray would say.

Florenz · 28/05/2023 12:01

They should just do away with MPs expenses entirely, they just abuse them left right and centre. They should be told to live on their salary, and if they don't like it, quit and do something else. The salary is £86,584. The average UK salary is £38,600 and most people earn less than that as it's skewed by a small number of very high earners. If MPs can't live on £86k, they clearly can't budget properly and are not suited for the job they are doing.

OMGitsnotgood · 28/05/2023 12:26

Florenz · 28/05/2023 12:01

They should just do away with MPs expenses entirely, they just abuse them left right and centre. They should be told to live on their salary, and if they don't like it, quit and do something else. The salary is £86,584. The average UK salary is £38,600 and most people earn less than that as it's skewed by a small number of very high earners. If MPs can't live on £86k, they clearly can't budget properly and are not suited for the job they are doing.

You're overlooking the fact that they need to be in London all week when parliament is sitting. They also need a home in or near their constituency, and need to travel between the two. Obviously if you're a London based MP you don't need two homes. If you're from somewhere that's not a reasonable daily commute, you need two homes. £86,584. doesn't go very far when one of those homes, even a small apartment, is in London, and the train fare to and from London is a couple of hundred pounds a week. Of course they need expenses covered, but the process needs to be tight enough to avoid abuse, like paying a silly amount to have someone change a light bulb or clean their moat which are not reasonable expenses which a recall being quoted a few years ago.

Florenz · 28/05/2023 12:44

The whole system needs to be modernised. There's no reason for Parliament to be in London nowadays, it should be moved to somewhere in the Midlands that is a) cheaper and b) more central. Parliamentary debates could be done via Zoom or some other video conferencing service.

At the moment it's basically still done the way it was in Victorian times which is ridiculous in 2023.

verdantverdure · 28/05/2023 13:29

We've just paid almost £50 for 5 small fish and chips to eat on a park bench by the river.

The last time was 2019 and it was under £25. (Same chip shop)

Pretty sure the portions are smaller now and chips not so nice.

verdantverdure · 30/05/2023 01:18

Today it's this:

People in Britain are literally dying as a direct result of Tory policy to defund the NHS.

To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?
To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?
bidenfor · 30/05/2023 02:21

Nothing really. The Labour Party and its supporters care too much about class.

verdantverdure · 30/05/2023 16:42

Today it's the Tory government's

"“integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level”

With regard to threatening to go to court to avoid giving certain documents to the Covid Inquiry they set up and Baroness Hallett whom they appointed to run it.

newnamethanks · 30/05/2023 16:54

Refusing to part with the Cake Records? Very bad look Bozo. Still, nothing to see in the WhatsApps anyway, so you say. Absolution is doubtless at hand. Can't understand why you're not keen on showing everyone just how blameless you are.

verdantverdure · 03/06/2023 22:41

Today?

Second Wave Sunak.

I can’t remember how many people died in the UK’s second covid wave but I remember that thanks to Eat Out To Help Out it was more than in the first wave.

verdantverdure · 06/06/2023 19:20

Today?

This:

Between March 2020 to December 2021, Government awarded 22 contracts to Randox (or its strategic partner Qnostics Ltd) for its testing services, worth a maximum total value of £776.9 million. The Committee’s inquiry into these contracts found numerous issues with the first contract – failures in basic record-keeping; gaps in conflict-of-interest declarations; and wider procurement issues, such as a lack of senior scrutiny and sign-off. The DHSC also marked supplier offers as ‘VIP’ if they had been referred from ministers, MPs, or Number 10. These priority suppliers received £6 billion of the £7.9 billion of testing contracts awarded between May 2020 to March 2021.27 .The PAC has been asked by Parliament to examine the papers relating to government contracts for the supply of PPE by PPE Medpro which secured two contracts worth a combined value of over £200 million and is now the subject of an investigation by the National Crime Agency into potential fraud."

verdantverdure · 06/06/2023 21:44

Read this and weep for the waste of our money:

The Seventh Annual Report of the Chair of the Committee of Public Accounts publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5803/cmse…

Florenz · 07/06/2023 21:37

All governments waste money. I will be voting Labour in the next GE but let's not be ridiculous. Things aren't going to change very much. Rich people will still be rich, poor people will still be poor, and the public sector will still be bloated and inefficient.

verdantverdure · 07/06/2023 22:01

Florenz · 07/06/2023 21:37

All governments waste money. I will be voting Labour in the next GE but let's not be ridiculous. Things aren't going to change very much. Rich people will still be rich, poor people will still be poor, and the public sector will still be bloated and inefficient.

We've got record government debt.

Record levels of fraud...

Nobody else could do worse.

We seem to have forgotten it used to be so much better.

We used to get great public services for public money.

Lately the Rick get richer, the rest of us get poorer AND you can't see a GP or avoid the bloody potholes.

Howpo · 08/06/2023 08:19

Florenz · 07/06/2023 21:37

All governments waste money. I will be voting Labour in the next GE but let's not be ridiculous. Things aren't going to change very much. Rich people will still be rich, poor people will still be poor, and the public sector will still be bloated and inefficient.

Agree, it will take a 2nd term to limit, let alone stop the rot that has set in.

Of course we need the rich but we can do more to protect the poor too and try and lift them out of poverty, the gap in private vs state school per pupil spending is huge, that needs closing.

I think the overall tax burden on the better off is going to have to increase, middle and low income folk just don't have the money now and we can't borrow due to that huge public debt the Tories have run up.

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