To ask what stops you voting for the tories ?

[Icandothattoo]

For me
The unending shite that is brexit
Corruption and dishonesty, especially during the pandemic but not uniquely. And not just Johnson.
Making already deprived areas compete against each other for levelling up money whilst perfectly affluent tory voting areas are handed it on a plate (looking at Richmond N yorks Rishi ! ). Funny that 80% of constituencies getting levelling up funds are tory...
Whole culture war. Singling out certain minorities to attack for purely political gain. In the 80s single mums, 90s benefit claimants, 2000s refugees, immigrants. FWIW I'm fairly gender critical but disliked the way they toadied round Trump and his abhorrent opinions/followers who pretty much wrote the culture war playbook.
So what stops you from voting for them ?

Bent Tory MPs

Here's Scott Benton Conservative MP for Blackpool South caught on camera offering to leak White Papers to gambling companies before they are published, lobby ministers and table questions for money.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=jXCfHwbB0hw

@SerendipityJane

The Tory mortgage penalty

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mortgage-penalty-leaves-first-29671002

New figures show the average two-year fixed-rate mortgage in January last year was £837, but 12 months later this had risen to an eye-watering £1,303 - a £466 increase.

The average fixed rate shot up from an average of 2.4% to 6% as markets went into meltdown following Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng's disastrous economic policies, the party said.

(Increases in mortgage costs obviously also put up rents too)

I've just lost patience with the "Labour spent all the money and put the country in huge debt" lie

Haven’t we all? And still that bloody note at the Treasury keeps being brought up. I guess it’s indicative of the level of desperation.

Haven’t we all? And still that bloody note at the Treasury keeps being brought up. I guess it’s indicative of the level of desperation.

The right-wingers, who live in an entirely imaginary world defined by their lies, habitually ignore a previous note left by a chancellor...

"Maudling retained his post as Chancellor under the new Prime Minister and in the 1964 election, Maudling had a prominent role at the helm of the party's daily press conferences, while Douglas-Home toured the country. On the BBC's election results programme, the journalist Anthony Howard said that he believed that if Maudling had been leader, the narrow Conservative defeat would have been a narrow Conservative victory.[17] Upon being forced out of the post by the election defeat, Maudling left a note to his successor, James Callaghan, simply stating "Good luck, old cock.... Sorry to leave it in such a mess"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Maudling, also recounted by Andrew Marr in his History of Modern Britain

NHS failing
education cuts the standard of education now is awful in comparison to 10/15 years ago (my kids have big age gaps )
cost of living crisis
brexit
covid
they are failing the country at every level

Nothing will stop die-hard tory voters voting tory.
That's why they'll win the next election.

A conscience

Their track record.

Look at the state of our country.

This, from the New York Times sums it up:

That sums it up. So utterly depressing. For me almost the worst part is that even if Labour win the next GE - and God help us if they don't - they are facing an absolute gargantuan task in turning things around. It's going to take years and years, and the electorate have short memories.

Brexit, ERG
Chronic under investment in public services
panding to anti-immigrant prejudices
JRM
Boris Johnson
Liz Truss (she's still an MP, you know)
Nigel Lawson
"On yer bike" mentality
climate change deniers
fervent belief that markets solve every problem
freeze on fuel duty
Friggin Ruwanda deportation nonsense "policy"

I have time for One Nation Conservatives, John Major, Ken Clarke, Charles Walker, Johnny Mercer. A lot of the rest of them: meh.

The sheer incompetence. It's pretty clear that, past the second term, they're pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel, which was originally full of people who weren't really qualified to run any of the departments they were responsible for in the first place.

I mean...austerity was a reasonable response to the crap that the previous government had left us with. If Cameron's government weren't idiots in the second term, it would've put us in good stead for moving forwards...but they weren't, so it continued. And then, because it wasn't really working, we got Brexit, which set the stage for the real incompetents to come forward, and...well, add a global disaster to an already wrecked country that was supposed to be entering recovery but managed to assiduously avoid it, and here we are.

Labour can't fix this - nobody can, in even two terms. We might be able to recover a bit, but it's going to be more than a decade before we're even approaching parity with where we were even five years ago, much less the heydays of the early 2000s.

Not only do we need to get the current shower of shit as far away from government as is possible, we need a series of boring, more-or-less centrist governments to just knuckle down and get the job done.

I cannot really add anything new. I've hated the Conservative Party for as long as I can remember. I can recall singing 'Margaret Thatcher, Milk Snatcher' in the playground. That thing brought my beautiful city to its knees. It helped both the Hillsborough and Orgreave cover-ups. It shifted the blame for deaths. Boris Johnson, in recent times, wasn't much better. The only time I have ever felt anything positive towards that party was when same sex marriage was legalised.

Plus, I'm pretty sure my own mother would disown me if I voted Conservative.

I wonder if much of the rest of the world has been looking at us in a similar way we've been looking at Viktor Orban's Hungry or Erdogan's Turkey. I remember I met a Venezuelan couple in France a couple of years ago, they were friends of friends. Even they asked us, what the fuck have you done to yourselves? The state of our country was being pitied by Venezuelans.

What stops me voting for the Tories?

They are Tories.

They actually thought that Liz Truss was a good choice as a prime minister!!

Apart from mismanaging the NHS, Police, Economy etc, it’s their desperate last throw of the dice, lurch to the Far Right. The racist rhetoric they are spouting is just disgusting. Who needs the National Front/BNP/Britain First, when our own government is doing their job for them.

Hmm, largely because they are the Tories. Always have been cunts, always will be.

These lying leaflets:

@verdantverdure - that's shocking. Have you reported it to the electoral commission? (Not that they actually have any power to do anything about it, mind.)

This crop of Tories have turned off even die hard Tory voters. They're relying on the very very thick at this stage.

Heard of inflation? under Blair it was very low, under you lot its not been, one of the highest in Europe, with uk consumers paying the most expensive electricity costs in the world.

NMW has doubled over this time period

I met my cousin for lunch recently, Tory party member, has been for decades, we rarely talk politics.

As we were saying our goodbyes, she asked me what i thought of Sunak, she then said she was really impressed by him.... standard stuff... so far.... then amazingly said "BUT they don't seem to have done anything, everything is broken, especially housing, i wont be voting for them at the next GE"