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Not surprised some holiday islands don’t want Brits?

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lightsandtunnels · 05/03/2023 08:47

Just spent 2 weeks in Tenerife.
Observed some pretty bad behaviour on number of occasions - all drunken - and all Brits.
It’s a resort known for couples and families and visitors from all over Europe: Iceland, Dutch, Czech, German etc so definitely not overwhelming British tourists. And not a resort that is known to ‘cater’ for stag & hens.
Three examples (there are several more including many drunken football related scenes.)

Two couples (with children) totally smashed one night at hotel when entertainment was on. Loud, shouting, obnoxious, stupid behaviour - the entertainers were clearly annoyed.

Two guys (early 20’s) in restaurant early evening (lots of Spanish families there) totally wasted. Kept saying to each other in loud voices ‘I’m so f*ed’ and shouting, stupid giggling and lots of loud swearing and horrible language about licking your mother. Chucked drink over each other.

Group of drunken hens climbing on promotion animals outside shops, early evening. Lots of swearing, shouting. Observed by many people. Shop staff standing observing.

I know we were all young once etc etc.
AIBU to not be surprised at the latest news of holiday islands wanting other holiday makers and not Brits? Or is this acceptable holiday behaviour? Were we just unlucky to see it all?

OP posts:
DoneForToday · 05/03/2023 13:59

Abreezeitheglade · 05/03/2023 10:11

I don’t fly anywhere but my friend has great advice of looking on trip advisor for bitchy comments about German tourists then booking that resort to avoid brits. Made me laugh but probably good advice

Look for reviews that discuss shower pressure. They are always by Germans. (I know..I am one!!). :-)

Choconut · 05/03/2023 14:01

No one does getting shit faced quite like the Brits do, do they? It's just never really been a 'thing' in the rest of Europe like it is here.

It's not that places don't want Brits though - they want people who are going to spend more money and behave better, they don't care about the nationality - the same is happening in SE Asia IMO. Places that have been seen as cheap destinations and attracted young people with drink and partying now want to move on from that to attract 'higher class' travellers with more money to spend when they arrive who won't cause all sorts of social problems.

Personally I can think of a long list of trashy Brits abroad destinations that would really benefit from this.

CantStopWontStop0 · 05/03/2023 14:07

slowquickstep · 05/03/2023 09:53

And you would happily put up with that behaviour on your street ?

I wouldn't live in a prime tourist attraction area, but assuming I did I'd seek to move to somewhere more residential or suburban.

RadioactiveWear · 05/03/2023 14:08

When I was a student I spent 2 summers working in notorious resorts where young Brits hang out.

I regularly witnessed people being so drunk they jumped off balconies, had to be taken to hospital for alcohol consumption and all other nonsense. I saw girls giving boys blow jobs in the street. It was horrendous. I’d never go to those places now and I’m embarrassed for us as a nation. My DH’s relatives are from one of these countries and they have a really low opinion of Brits.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 05/03/2023 14:14

How very ignorant to compare Tenerife with Ibiza. But then there is more to Ibiza than San Antonio. We have stayed at AI (shock horror) hotels in Europe and the Caribbean and have never witnessed Brits behaving as described. I have seen Americans in the Caribbean though having to be warned to curb their behaviour in a family friendly resort.

CementTrucker · 05/03/2023 14:19

jetadore · 05/03/2023 12:21

Hello, it’s Brit narrative of “No criticism of the UK is permitted, anyone not proclaiming the self evident superiority of all our customs can fuck off.” So insecure.

Not how I read this comment. We have a big problem with loutish behaviour in this country - it’s why so many of us avoid city centres at night and certain holiday destinations - but it is rather irritating to see people sniffily proclaiming they avoid other British people abroad. Let’s be honest: it is overwhelmingly certain segments of the population that behave like this, not all or even most of us. Some posters seem to think they’re a special minority who are more aligned with a refined European way of doing things and must avoid the rest of us.

Those of us who recognise the problem can mostly avoid it. The one and only time I have had an issue with fellow Brits was with a very threatening mixed-sex group who were screaming out obscenities in the queue for a flight to Milan. We complained and half the party weren’t boarded. Meanwhile, a holiday in Sardinia was ruined through sleep deprivation last year because of a ludicrously loud French family in the room next to us. They had not received the memo about how Europeans behave.

CementTrucker · 05/03/2023 14:23

CantStopWontStop0 · 05/03/2023 14:07

I wouldn't live in a prime tourist attraction area, but assuming I did I'd seek to move to somewhere more residential or suburban.

Locals shouldn’t have to move to accommodate antisocial behaviour! Or the results of overtourism, which is a different problem.

We shouldn’t have to put up with the former here in the UK either. One thing I love about holidaying abroad (and not in resorts that attract this crowd) is being able to go out in the evening and have a drink and food without being surrounded by shrieking, swearing, yelling, overindulgence. We seem to have given up on that here.

CantStopWontStop0 · 05/03/2023 14:38

CementTrucker · 05/03/2023 14:23

Locals shouldn’t have to move to accommodate antisocial behaviour! Or the results of overtourism, which is a different problem.

We shouldn’t have to put up with the former here in the UK either. One thing I love about holidaying abroad (and not in resorts that attract this crowd) is being able to go out in the evening and have a drink and food without being surrounded by shrieking, swearing, yelling, overindulgence. We seem to have given up on that here.

There's a lot of things in life people shouldn't have to do, such is life. I wouldn't wait for the state or local authorities to resolve these issues.

PillBoxes · 05/03/2023 14:39

Go somewhere your 18 -25 kids WOULD NOT GO TO. That's the place to book!

I wouldn't go to a resort in any country now, but find out of the way places with things I like. Italian lakes, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Scandi, Tuscany, inland Spain, Portugal north of Lisbon, so many to choose from, and so far no mad noisy stuff from anyone YET.

Guis23 · 05/03/2023 14:44

I can understand other countries being heartily sick to death of it. They have made money from it but at a cost. Their country is treated like some sort of holiday theme park. And badly treated too.

They have realised perhaps that people with bigger wallets don't behave like that.

CementTrucker · 05/03/2023 14:53

CantStopWontStop0 · 05/03/2023 14:38

There's a lot of things in life people shouldn't have to do, such is life. I wouldn't wait for the state or local authorities to resolve these issues.

Personally I wouldn’t wait for them either as I have no faith in them, but that’s not right is it? Your comments on this thread suggest people should either just suck it up because they’re benefitting financially (which reeks of beggars can’t be choosers) or get out. This is a terrible argument, and I welcome governments who decide to cultivate other types of tourism and local groups who campaign against negative tourism.

Notimeforaname · 05/03/2023 14:56

I can honestly say the loud , drunken fools I see on holiday always are from the UK...I'm not saying that to be mean, that is literally my experience holidaying in Europe.
I sat with a hotel owner in Greece last year who went on and on about how he and the locals hate "The Brits". 🤷‍♀️

Of course there are lovely British people who go away on holidays and act normally but the troublemakers seem to always be from UK.

donttellmehesalive · 05/03/2023 14:57

I see someone has taken umbrage and assumed that anyone criticising the behaviour of some British people abroad must hate living in Britain and want to leave. I don't really understand the extrapolation there. I love living in the UK. I always want to come home and wouldn't live anywhere else. But there's a subsection of holidaymaker abroad who is an absolute embarrassment.

tinytemper66 · 05/03/2023 15:04

jetadore · 05/03/2023 11:50

YANBU at all. We avoid these places like the plague but usually get more than our fill of this type of behaviour just on the flight over after the twats have had a few ‘liveners’ at the open all hours Wetherspoons. Completely normal British holiday ‘culture’: early AM flight with gangs of loudmouthed foulmouthed arseholes who don’t give a shit about anyone else - mainly families with kids, older people, people from Norma countries - because they’re having a “laugh” which to them consists of shouting, wanting to sit where they like, vomiting, insulting and intimidating staff or anyone else who challenges their entitled antisocial cuntery. All completely normalised by society, the UK has a mass, unacknowledged mental health and alcohol abuse problem.

I have never experienced this on my travels. Am so glad.

Sarahcoggles · 05/03/2023 15:10

KatyKlanger · 05/03/2023 12:05

The Mumsnetter narrative of "Everything about the UK is bad. Europe is Utopia" continues.

Why are many of you still in the UK if you love Europe so much? Go on, off you go.

I get sick of it too.
I understand that quite a lot of the people trafficking and drug dealing in this country is done by Albanians. Is it OK for me to say that all Albanians are vile horrible people who should be avoided at all costs? Of course it isn't.

Every country has its share of idiots. You just have to look further than resorts favoured by Brits to find them.
I remember being on a beach in France and my young kids and I had spent ages building a sandcastle. My kids were so proud, we took photos, they were playing near the castle and having a great time. A group of French teens came over and kicked the whole thing down. You don't have to be British to be a twat.

AnneElliott · 05/03/2023 15:15

Certainly there's bad behaviour from some Brits aboard - but do you think they're model citizens when they're back home? Very unlikely - they're the same sort of people that have untrained dogs that shit on the the pavement, used mattresses and rubbish in their front garden and probably annoy the hell out of their neighbours.

As a pp said, those sort of people will be avoided at home. Why are we surprise that they behave badly abroad?

Sarahcoggles · 05/03/2023 15:19

donttellmehesalive · 05/03/2023 14:57

I see someone has taken umbrage and assumed that anyone criticising the behaviour of some British people abroad must hate living in Britain and want to leave. I don't really understand the extrapolation there. I love living in the UK. I always want to come home and wouldn't live anywhere else. But there's a subsection of holidaymaker abroad who is an absolute embarrassment.

The title of the OP is "AIBU to say that I'm not surprised some countries don't want Brits", implying that the bad behaviour is from "Brits" rather than "idiots who drink excessively and behave badly and happen to be British". OP is generalising from the outset. Then everyone chips in saying "yes Brits are always the worst, I hate Brits, I avoid Brits, Brits are awful, countries should ban Brits" etc, as if we're some homogenous set of people.

Every resort that offers cheap sunny holidays with lots of nightclubs will attract young people who want to get drunk and act stupidly. If you go to the resorts that are popular with Brits, then you'll see a lot of Brits.

Sarahcoggles · 05/03/2023 15:22

It makes me laugh seeing the reps on here moaning about the Brits drinking too much. When I went on package holidays in my 20s I never got involved in the rep-organised activities, but as far as I could tell they basically tried to pour as much alcohol into you as possible, and made people play stupid games that they'd only ever play if they were wasted.

LibrariansGiveUsPower · 05/03/2023 15:23

MajorCarolDanvers · 05/03/2023 10:02

Isn't Tenerife the 'party' island in the Canaries the same ways as Ibiza is in the Balearics.

It's why I never go to either.

These islands set out to cater to that market.

Families go to Lanzarote or Minorca. Been like that since they opened up in the 1970s.

Locals not employed in tourism complain the world over. You should hear the citizens of Edinburgh bitch about the festival and tourists every year.

I grew up in a major U.K. tourist hotspot and the behaviour we had from the French kids was disgusting. Firecrackers, stink bombs, all set off in shops and streets, buildings egged, it was horrible.

I don’t blame anyone wanting to ban drunken Brits.

jellycakeandicecream · 05/03/2023 15:32

MajorCarolDanvers · 05/03/2023 10:02

Isn't Tenerife the 'party' island in the Canaries the same ways as Ibiza is in the Balearics.

It's why I never go to either.

These islands set out to cater to that market.

Families go to Lanzarote or Minorca. Been like that since they opened up in the 1970s.

Locals not employed in tourism complain the world over. You should hear the citizens of Edinburgh bitch about the festival and tourists every year.

Then you are missing out as these are two beautiful islands with a lot to offer.

Would you tell people to avoid the UK because of what one random town - say Newcastle - is like on a Friday night? Or not go visit the Rockies as they in America and so is Las Vegas?

MyBloodyBrother · 05/03/2023 15:55

@LibrariansGiveUsPower was that Torquay with the EF students? If so, it’s still pretty much the same.

KatyKlanger · 05/03/2023 16:02

AnneElliott · 05/03/2023 15:15

Certainly there's bad behaviour from some Brits aboard - but do you think they're model citizens when they're back home? Very unlikely - they're the same sort of people that have untrained dogs that shit on the the pavement, used mattresses and rubbish in their front garden and probably annoy the hell out of their neighbours.

As a pp said, those sort of people will be avoided at home. Why are we surprise that they behave badly abroad?

In the UK, people pay a lot of money to avoid the more troublesome elements of the country - eg by buying a house in a nice area.

When they go on holiday, they book the cheapest hotel and resort they can, then wonder why it is full of the people they usually go to great lengths to avoid.

Mind, the people having a go at people drinking, are probably one of those loud families who sit round the pool shouting and dive bombing - which is why they are also in the cheap hotel.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 05/03/2023 16:24

The worse behaviour I've ever seen on holiday was by Russian tourists in Turkey.Its not just brits ime

PrincessHoneysuckle · 05/03/2023 16:25

worst

Annamariefl · 05/03/2023 16:26

The bars could do things to discourage the target audience if they wanted to - we have booked a table at a bar in the UK next week which has a no fancy dress (ie stags and hens) policy. Bar touts out during the day in very short shorts put us off Newquay several years ago though Newquay later made a conscious effort to discourage the ‘party’ element.