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Not to share my exam revision notes

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Fundayout · 03/03/2023 18:49

A group of us work colleagues are sitting an exam in the summer. I’ve worked hard to go through past papers and write up the questions and answers so I’ve got them to refer back to.
The pack is about 15 sides of A4 so it’s taken a while.
Colleagues saw me printing them off and asked for copies to give to the others too! I laughed and said I might but I felt really annoyed by it. It’s taken me hours and hours to collate this information and they’ll just have that side to work through without doing anything!

AIBU or should I let them all have a copy too? No skin off my nose if they all pass etc .

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saraclara · 05/03/2023 00:58

I go out of my way to help people more than most. Maybe too much really.

But I'd find that request so damn cheeky, that no way would I share with her. I'm not sure entirely what my reasoning is, but I find it infuriating that she should expect such a thing. Clear CFery, so no, don't do it.

And what others have said about the been curve marking system. You'd potentially be making it easier for them to do well and you to do worse.

DifferenceEngines · 05/03/2023 03:48

Oblomov23 · 04/03/2023 09:54

"no cost to yourself". I disagree. By giving it to them, they could do well in the exam, for free, no effort put in by them.
Most exams, not all, but most you are competing against the other people sitting.
Why would you want someone to do better than you, by your service.

Several people have already pointed out that it's the act of creating the notes that brings the benefit, not the reading of them.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/03/2023 03:54

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 00:44

This post shows you how many CF’s there are who think it ok to ask other people to do their work for them!

No. To share work that has already been done. OP won't do MORE work because she shares. It's just that more people will benefit.

Churlish is worse than cheeky in my book.

DifferenceEngines · 05/03/2023 03:57

AllWorkYoPlait · 04/03/2023 10:34

Some people on here are either mugs, or the cheeky fucker sort of people who would ask for someone's notes.

No. You give them nothing. You've put the work in. They can also put the work in.

On what planet is it the OPs job to help her colleagues in this scenario?

I would probably consider sharing, if it did not disadvantage me, I think it's a smart move, rather than being a mug.

I work in a field that's small, numbers wise. Reputation is important, and the people who get hired are the ones that people want to be in a team with. Sharing notes that are of good quality gets you a reputation as someone who knows their field, and as someone who will help out a colleague in a pinch. To be super Machiavellian, it's playing the long game, as well as being a nice thing to do.

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 04:06

No do their work for them AKA summarise, collate, form critical opinions on, review, select relevant information, quotes/ references/cases/evidence & organise into easy to study topics from the courses undertaken, from which to revise.

Why not sit the exam for them as well?

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 04:07

Last post meant for @MrsTerryPratchett

NumberTheory · 05/03/2023 04:32

DifferenceEngines · 05/03/2023 03:48

Several people have already pointed out that it's the act of creating the notes that brings the benefit, not the reading of them.

This depends on what OP has done. She talks about having gone back through past papers writing up all the questions and answers. There may be a lot of rote work there in simply collating the information that would be useful to anyone who receives it and for which there is little additional benefit in having been the one who collated it.

Only writing up the answers (and even here, only if OP went over them herself rather than copying and pasting from somewhere) would be work that brings significantly more benefit than simply getting a copy after the fact.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/03/2023 05:40

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 04:06

No do their work for them AKA summarise, collate, form critical opinions on, review, select relevant information, quotes/ references/cases/evidence & organise into easy to study topics from the courses undertaken, from which to revise.

Why not sit the exam for them as well?

But OP did all that anyway. She's not doing it for them, she did it for herself. It costs her nothing extra to share it.

Of course she doesn't have to. But not sharing when it costs you literally nothing? I don't understand.

UdoU · 05/03/2023 05:45

No way would I give my notes. And it’s weird they even clocked them, nosy bastards.

quinceh · 05/03/2023 05:46

I’d probably say (lightheartedly) no, do your own bloody notes. However, I might be happy to sit and talk through them with someone, or show them the format, if that’d be deemed remotely helpful!

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 06:09

@MrsTerryPratchett but that’s the same as saying it costs a pupil nothing to give their homework for other pupils to copy.

UdoU · 05/03/2023 06:21

I think it depends on the colleague. I often share template/presentations with some colleagues because they are helpful to me as well. Then there are those who just shrug their shoulders and say they can’t help, when I know they could. Why would I help the latter?

QuitsAmidCrisis · 05/03/2023 06:25

I wouldn’t share now. I did through school and university and can see that I was a doormat generally and being used.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/03/2023 06:31

UdoU · 05/03/2023 06:21

I think it depends on the colleague. I often share template/presentations with some colleagues because they are helpful to me as well. Then there are those who just shrug their shoulders and say they can’t help, when I know they could. Why would I help the latter?

Maybe that's it. I work in a cooperative sector where we are always trying to improve everything. If it was more cutthroat maybe I would be.

JustKeepSwimmingJust · 05/03/2023 06:42

If it’s a fairly small course then the people at OP’s work all doing better could easily make it harder to pass. Something on the scale of GCSEs then the people you know doing better won’t change the pass Mark.

I’d say no, but would be happy to participate if we can all have a revision lunchtime.

theculture · 05/03/2023 07:39

I agree a PP right at the start who said they would refuse with the reasoning that they wouldn't want to be responsible for unwittingly passing on the wrong/incorrect information and potentially messing up other peoples exams

Also from the other side I still feel guilty about the one time I asked my (eventually getting a first male) friend to help me (eventually getting a 2.1 female) to copy his assignment as I had forgotten to do it and then the embarrassment of getting higher marks than he did

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/03/2023 08:25

This depends on what OP has done. She talks about having gone back through past papers writing up all the questions and answers. There may be a lot of rote work there in simply collating the information that would be useful to anyone who receives it and for which there is little additional benefit in having been the one who collated it

I've been assuming that the OP crafted her own notes and answers.

If it was cut and pasted I'd be less definite about my response.

My other thought is that if this exam is about important matters that might be health-related, involve policies/procedures that affect living beings or might concern aspects of the law or accountancy (to give some examples) then I'd rather that all sitting the exam did their own study and were not potentially helped over the pass line when they should not have been by someone else's work.

LuciferRising · 05/03/2023 08:27

I'm convinced many people here haven't taken exams since they left school / university hence not wanting to share because many professional exams as adults are different. Or maybe it's the sectors.

Cococomellonn · 05/03/2023 08:37

No I wouldn't give them to them but I'd worry about being outcast a bit for not doing so, depending on the work environment.

TiddlySquats · 05/03/2023 08:40

No, I wouldn't share. There might be a plagiarism check done on the exam papers and similar wording, mistakes etc could be detected.

faffadoodledo · 05/03/2023 08:44

No skin off your nose OP. It won't adversely affect you (of it des then don't!). You got the real benefit by having out the work and thought in. Your colleagues are missing the point if they think your notes will be equally beneficial to them.

I'd share and store the experience up for one of those tricky work interview questions - tell us about a tricky situation yiu had with colleagues kind of thing. And answer it to make yourself look hard working and collaborative!

Dotcheck · 05/03/2023 08:48

Hankunamatata · 03/03/2023 19:49

I'd reply my notes won't help as they are condensed versions of what iv learned to prompt me

I’d say that too. Your notes are most likely based on information you needed to learn, and you may have left out information you already knew. This would be different for everyone

Nimbostratus100 · 05/03/2023 08:59

Oblomov23 · 04/03/2023 12:23

@Nimbostratus100

GCSE's and A'levels, which may affect most of MN as most of us are parents, are competitive.

"Grade boundaries are set at the end of the marking period, which means it’s only once all the papers have been marked that the awarding body will set the boundaries."

So yes, you are in competition with your peers. Re most school exams.

o come off it!

you are being ridiculous! noone is in direct competition with classmates when tens of thousands are taking the exam. As I said upthread, you would only be in direct competition for grades if there were only 10 people in the world taking the exam. And even then, if everybody scores highly, then everybody would get a good grade

students in the same class help and support each other, normally , particularly in state schools were resources are very much more limited

These habits are frequently commented on by university staff I know, who see this attitude as much more mature and constructive, and far more likely to have been developed in state school students, and an indicator that a student is more likely to be successful at university level

Nimbostratus100 · 05/03/2023 08:59

TiddlySquats · 05/03/2023 08:40

No, I wouldn't share. There might be a plagiarism check done on the exam papers and similar wording, mistakes etc could be detected.

and that would NOT be plagairism

Nimbostratus100 · 05/03/2023 09:01

Companyofwolves · 05/03/2023 06:09

@MrsTerryPratchett but that’s the same as saying it costs a pupil nothing to give their homework for other pupils to copy.

It is completely different, homework is the finished product, here the exam is the finished product, the notes just help revise.

It is the same thing as sharing a text book that helps someone complete their homework

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