someone tell me what crime has been committed?

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Baffled by this story

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11810311/Woman-49-convicted-manslaughter-raising-hand-elderly-cyclist-collision.html

on what grounds are the prosecuting the pedestrian? It seems an absolute stretch to think that her gesticulating and “radiant her hand” at a cyclist for driving towards her on a pavement is wilful manslaughter? I can see how it’s a tragic, very unfortunate accident but how did this make it to court?

The atmosphere is this country is so toxic to middle aged women at the moment- what is going on?!

Yes not helping, that’s why I’m thinking the pedestrians sentence was custodial.

But the same with my mum, and the police did absolutely nothing.

I would add that there were no obstructions in the way, the driver could see all the way down the road to see someone coming. A small child would have been killed.

Totally the cyclist's fault if they were on the pavement and unable to control their cycle.

They were controlling it just fine until someone pushed them off

The police should be prosecuting adult cyclists using the pavement, it's bad enough with 'cute' kids on bikes, scooters, skateboards as well as adults using motorised chairs as though they own the pavement and everyone else should get out of their way.

Agreed.

They should also prosecute obvious cases of manslaughter.

Maybe if the woman hadn't died they'd have given her an fpn.

But her wrongdoing didn't need to result in her dying. Forcing her into traffic resulting in her death still needs answering for

I've checked the road on street view, there are numerous shared path signs on the road, none saying it stops being a shared path but none on that actual section which is why the police are unable to establish if its shared use or not. I was expecting a suspended sentence so there must be more evidence

Yes. Avoid it.

From looking at the CCTV footage, it's a really narrow section of path. The cyclist should have slowed down as she approached the pedestrian. I'm surprised about the conviction.

In all this chat about the dangers of pavement cycling, it's worth remembering that nearly a hundred times more people are killed by motor vehicles driving on pavements than cyclists on pavements

Worst near miss I had was a car coming round a corner at speed onto pavement to park they clearly couldn't see - it was school run time at end of day. I got impression it was something they'd regularly done at a different time of day and got dangerously complacent.

There was a pedestrian killed near us at a light junction - it turns into duel carriageway and people aren't supposed to do u turned there but many did if they missed a prior turn- quiet Sunday morning car did that clipped a motorbike also at junction who lost control and hit pedestrian - both died and car driver went to prison - they've improved signage and changed slightly junction formation but I've still seen people doing u turns round light to other side there as it somewhere I still regularly walk past.

Cars are very much a danger to bikes and pedestrians - and there are better road designs that could help minimised that but we don't seem to want to spend the money and do it properly.

Having watched the cctv it honestly looks like she gives the woman a sharp shove as she passes, which immediately makes her fall off her bike into the road so I can completely understand the manslaughter charge tbh. Incredibly callous to walk away and leave her there.

If you look on street view it really isn't that narrow.

In the street view there's 2 people walking side by side on that section with enough space left to pass in the other direction

Pushing her in front of a car then walking off to shop in Sainsbury’s as she lay dead most certainly should result in a jail sentence.

You're suprised that deliberately pushing someone into the path of a car led to a conviction?

Where are you getting 'pushing' from? I can't find a report that mentions pushing at all.

You can imagine what you want, the OP linked the Mail.

None of us saw all the evidence, the jury did and found her guilty.

The OP has somehow framed this as toxicity against middle aged women.

It's just whataboutery.

Imaginary scenarios designed to somehow " prove" the woman is innocent.

i will take the juries decision rather than the imaginations of those flocking to this post.

It's 2.4m wide. I wouldn't call that narrow

From the clip it appears the cyclist was on the roadside of the pavement the whole way towards the pedestrian. Maybe she assumed the woman would move over to the inside but with the gesticulating it should have been apparent she wouldn't. I don't get why cyclist didn't come to a stop and dismount or even cycle more slowly on the inside of the pavement. It looks like an unsafe conviction from that footage. That pavement is way too narrow for sharing with cyclists surely? No helmet either by the looks of things.

You don't have to make contact for it to be common assault. Getting up in someone's face and shouting at them can be enough.

The much bigger problem is everyone deciding the pavements are a car park. Anyone who parks on a pavement and blocks it for pedestrians should have their car taken away and crushed (not with them inside!)

I am surprised the pedestrian in this case got a custodial sentence, but clearly the judge felt the circumstances warranted it.

Did you see the video? The woman was walking towards the cyclist gesticulating and basically intimidated her to get off the pavement. She didn't have time to stop or get off safely. She then fell into traffic and died.

I don't know the rest because I wasn't in court, but it seems like she did cause the woman's death.

No helmet either by the looks of things

there is no legal requirement to wear one and even if there were, it won't protect your head if a car squashes it and has no bearing whatsoever on the criminal liability of others involved in an incident.

I don't know why people are so obsessed with cyclists wearing helmets - it doesn't mean you have to drive less carefully!

This is awful. The cyclist is the victim here. No

She admitted to police in her police interview that she made 'light contact'. Plus you can see it in the video, right at the moment the cyclist falls off her bike.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-64747184

No helmet either by the looks of things.

I'm very much in favour of cyclists wearing helmets but I'm not sure why it's relevant in this situation. She died of severe chest injuries. I don't think a helmet would have prevented her from being crushed beneath a car.