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To lie on my CV?

167 replies

MumOfTwee · 01/03/2023 22:00

My perfect job has come up. Its asking for experience at a certain type of company. I do have that experience but only was there for 6 months and left because my boss was hell on earth. AIBU go stretch out that 6 months to say a year/18 months?

No real way to check unless someone on the hiring panel knows someone who used to work at the other place, but even then it's three jobs ago so can't imagine they would check

I work in a creative industry so I'm not saving lives or doing anything specialist that would mean exaggerating experience might have any risks

Do people do this all the time?

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MarshaMelrose · 02/03/2023 03:11

Loads of people enhance their CVs. Its not like you never worked there. They're not going to check exact dates from 8 years ago.

MarshaMelrose · 02/03/2023 03:16

GellerYeller · 01/03/2023 23:20

From reed.co.uk:

Lying on your CV is now seen as part of the wider crime of application fraud, for which there can be serious consequences.
In July 2014, The Telegraph reported on the growing number of prosecutions and jail sentences given to those caught lying on their CV. The maximum sentence for this crime is 10 years' imprisonment.

You're not going to get 10 years imprisonment for saying you worked at a company for 12 months as opposed to six. The police wouldn't be involved in something like that! That's for serious crimes like saying you're a surgeon when you've only got 1 gcse in home economics.

DahliaRose3 · 02/03/2023 04:03

You don’t need to state months just the year, and as someone else mentioned skills and achievements. It doesn’t necessarily reflect badly if you were only there for 6 months if it wasn’t the right cultural fit or other, a good justification. What may happen if you lie is that someone knows someone that worked there, and you end up caught out.

Other jobs will come along, if it doesn’t work out with this one.

WednesdaysPlaits · 02/03/2023 04:11

It’s a criminal offence. It’s called obtaining pecuniary advantage by deception. Don’t do it.

Zanatdy · 02/03/2023 04:42

They won’t check believe me. They only check last employment - everyone makes up crap at interviews. I’ve never lied but I’ve been in the same job 22yrs so not needed to but they definitely won’t check so do what you need to do I say. Good luck!

TeachesOfPeaches · 02/03/2023 05:01

I work in recruitment and hiring managers will often get informal references from their network if they know someone who worked at the company at the same time as the candidate.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 02/03/2023 05:26

@stepkidscopingstrategy

'get creative'

Maybe add to your CV that you invented the light bulb...

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/03/2023 05:40

Do you say don't do it because its too risky or morally it's bad? Or both?

Both. Someone more qualified is losing out if you lie. Added to which if the experience is that important, and you don't have it, you'll be shit at your job.

My field is small, someone always knows someone and I wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder the whole time.

CowboyHat · 02/03/2023 05:42

stepkidscopingstrategy · 01/03/2023 22:09

Everyone is holier than thou on MN.
If you know you can do the job - go for it.
Men would NOT be having this conversation. I can promise you that. I work in a 70/30 ratio of men to women.

I agree with this. No one is going to check the finer detail of a role you did 8 years ago.

And to the people saying she might be found out by other staff members who used to work at the same place - how exactly would that happen? I don’t remember how long people worked in my office 8 years ago.

Do it OP. Everyone exaggerates on their CV.

CowboyHat · 02/03/2023 05:43

TeachesOfPeaches · 02/03/2023 05:01

I work in recruitment and hiring managers will often get informal references from their network if they know someone who worked at the company at the same time as the candidate.

This is true, but it was 8 years ago. They’re not going to remember if she was there for 6 month, 9 months or a year. They just won’t.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/03/2023 05:43

92louise · 02/03/2023 02:59

Right I left college back in 200
8 and then done another job after this job basically my third job in I'm qualifying as a dispenser now I know I'm not aware of what your doing but let me tell us the only GCSE I told the truth on was English. I didn't even go to science yet I had a double b in it 😂. They won't check unless they have been told otherwise. Also no matter whet now the GCSEs don't count and you will be made to sit maths/science or English grade 1-2 adult level it's basically a refresher x

Dispensing medication? And you didn't pass GCSE Maths?

Fuck.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/03/2023 05:44

Everyone exaggerates on their CV.

Why do people insist on saying this sort of thing. Dishonest liars always think everyone is at it. Same as cheats. But no, some of us don't lie on our CVs and never have.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 02/03/2023 05:51

MumOfTwee · 01/03/2023 22:49

So if the CV said

BT: project manager: 2016 - 17
Pepsi: senior project manager: 2017 - 2021
Tesco: senior project manager: 2021 onwards

(Made up places and roles of course)

That would be fine? Wouldn't someone ask how long the BT stint was for if BT was the most relevant on that list?

I'm really over thinking this but this job would make my life so much better!

Perfect! Not actually lying are you?

You should list them newest to oldest though.

hay5689 · 02/03/2023 06:04

I interviewed someone a few weeks back and they worked at my previous company in the same job role as me. When I asked about the salary he lied and added nearly £15k more than he was earning and said he expected more in the job I was interviewing him for. Needless to say the interview was over pretty quick after that and I double checked his salary claim with someone I know who was working there and he was definitely lying. Moral of the story is you never know where others have worked or who they know so be very careful.

GoodChat · 02/03/2023 06:17

hay5689 · 02/03/2023 06:04

I interviewed someone a few weeks back and they worked at my previous company in the same job role as me. When I asked about the salary he lied and added nearly £15k more than he was earning and said he expected more in the job I was interviewing him for. Needless to say the interview was over pretty quick after that and I double checked his salary claim with someone I know who was working there and he was definitely lying. Moral of the story is you never know where others have worked or who they know so be very careful.

It's unfair to ask people their current salary because you should pay them what they're worth, not as little as you can.

GoodChat · 02/03/2023 06:18

OP if it really is your dream job, apply for it without lying. If you don't get it, go and get the experience instead.

Soproudoflionesses · 02/03/2023 06:22

I would definitely be a bit economical with the truth - l was at a job for 3 months but made it look longer when l went for a similar role- l knew l could do it with my eyes shut but didn't want to look like a job hopper

MySugarBabyLove · 02/03/2023 06:25

It seems obvious to me that you actually only have six months experience doing the role you’re applying for, and that six months experience was eight years ago or you wouldn’t feel the need to lie about it.

There’s no way you wouldn’t stand a chance at getting the job if your experience was more recent, because it would be your most recent experience that would be taken into account.
And, what were you doing for the year you want to lie about that you don’t want to declare?

No employer asks for eight years experience in an industry, most ask for ten years employment experience, but that doesn’t have to be in the industry you’re applying for.

This isn’t just about making up a few months, there’s clearly something you want to hide.

Mumskisail · 02/03/2023 06:28

It's tempting. Depending on the company you may have to prove contacts with each company and confirm dates. I would say that's unusual, but for a financial services company I had to go back 5 years. As I'd had a career break and done a number of different things I sent copies of my HMRC records which were accepted.

MumOfTwee · 02/03/2023 06:38

@MySugarBabyLove I don't really understand your message. I was working in a creative role for a type of company, it was a disaster because my boss was a bully, I left to do the same job for another company. On the JD of this new job it says "must have worked at XXX type of company before" which I have but it was a short amount of time and to get to interview i wondered about extendinf that time period. Are you implying I'm trying to hide something else?

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TenoringBehind · 02/03/2023 06:40

I’m in the don’t lie camp.

MumOfTwee · 02/03/2023 06:41

My role is non technical, and most of my bosses have been too busy in the pub to think about checking people's CV in the past.

I really don't think I'd get caught. Unless someone who works at the new place used to work at the other place. That would be an issue.

But morally I'm interested that most people would not do it anyway.

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CatOnTheChair · 02/03/2023 06:53

Your example of just putting years is fine.

Putting Feb 2018- August 2019, when you started in Feb 19 is not fine.

ittakes2 · 02/03/2023 06:56

I leave months of CV so if I wrote 2022 they would only know how long if they asked and then don't lie

Trixielo · 02/03/2023 07:00

I don’t think there is much point in lying. If they are looking for a particular type of experience from a particular company - they will go for the candidate who is doing that kind of job now. Having done it 8 years ago is unlikely to get you on the interview shortlist.