To lie on my CV?

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My perfect job has come up. Its asking for experience at a certain type of company. I do have that experience but only was there for 6 months and left because my boss was hell on earth. AIBU go stretch out that 6 months to say a year/18 months?

No real way to check unless someone on the hiring panel knows someone who used to work at the other place, but even then it's three jobs ago so can't imagine they would check

I work in a creative industry so I'm not saving lives or doing anything specialist that would mean exaggerating experience might have any risks

Do people do this all the time?

@MsFogi really? Your HR department must have bugger all to do if they are checking uni marks. How would they even know?

I wouldn't lie on my cv but I'd certainly represent facts in my favour (like with the date suggestion above, leaving off the months)

That is absolutely appropriate. I speak as a senior person with lots of history making hiring decisions.

you will need to be able to speak to your experience in a credible way, which is more important than the exact dates you were employed

I just put the year on mine for some jobs, I don't really need a CV anymore but have put this before (sometimes as I don't know the exact dates that far back)!

2019 - Company.- Job title

You won't get caught, but I'm also not sure you'll gain much. I can't imagine a scenario where 6 months rather than a year is a deal-breaker but it doesn't matter at all that it was eight years ago.

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Yes we would and I’d be saying the same to any blokes as I’ll say on here

its a bad idea. Morally not great, and these things have a habit of catching up with you. Just imagine suddenly working with someone who knows you weren’t there.

so men have morals too, who knew.

From reed.co.uk:

Lying on your CV is now seen as part of the wider crime of application fraud, for which there can be serious consequences.
In July 2014, The Telegraph reported on the growing number of prosecutions and jail sentences given to those caught lying on their CV. The maximum sentence for this crime is 10 years' imprisonment.

Something else to consider is if you have a profile on LinkedIn or similar, then this needs to match what you are sending to all potential employers, as well as matching what you've already sent to others. Not only is SM increasingly checked by employers but also the people you will work with. The office busy body will make it their business to look you up and broadcast any discrepancies they find. They are far more thorough than any HR department!

Where I've felt I've not fully met the person spec, I've called the recruiter to explain and ask if they feel it's worth me still applying? If you make a good case for the experience you do have, that may be enough to get you an interview. Employers want to see capable candidates, not exclude them!

If you are going to lie or fudge, make sure everything is in line with what they might find with a quick google or social media search.

I’ve done exactly as you have, just gave vague year dates from older jobs, a few months became a year etc.. the newer ones were more specific.. I got the job .. no one checked and I’m 7yrs in now so I think I’m pretty safe, The job was for shorter hours, more money, my life has massively improved .. I will never regret it for one second! I figure I’ll just get another job if they ever find out fire me.( They won’t though )

If you lie about those dates will you need to adjust others to make the maths work? In which case one lie becomes multiple.

I personally am all for embellishing a cv provided the embellishments are based in fact, are non specific and are things you know you can actually follow through on in real life. So on that basis I would not lie about this. I think it's too easy for you to get caught out. I work in an industry with lots of connections and Worker crossover so no way would I lie about something so specific. I also think I would spend my entire time there worried that they'd find out as that would be grounds for automatic dismissal.

If the job 8 years ago is the job where you gained the experience and is the most relevant to this new job then won't they expect a reference from there rather than a more recent but irrelevant job role reference?
I'd worry they'll seek out the employer if they are looking for a certain skill set😬

Honestly, don't do it.
Keep the dates to the exact months when you start/leave which usually isn't prob
.

Don't ever lie on your CV!

Obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception.

Agree with pp, what if they go to that company for the reference? Have you kept up with the relevent skills in any other ways (personal interest, study, conferences?) or used them at all in your roles since? My current manager embellished his experience and is now getting very found out, and it's not good....

If it’s from 8+ years ago, how relevant is the experience anyway. I wouldn’t lie. These things have a way of being covered and if you got the job and we’re then somehow found to have lied it could have repercussions and even lead to a dismissal which wouldn’t look good on a CV.
if you think you can do the job with that little experience in a previous desired role then it’s up to you to sell yourself enough to get the interview. A much better way to prove your worth and an honest one too.

My company use a vetting service that checks absolutely everything!

There's no way they will check. I've told some corking great lies on my cv. Big ones. And I've never been caught. I don't any more as I've gained experience etc, from the lies, to not need them any more.

If, as you say, you won't get the job and have no chance without that experience. Just lie as you have nothing to lose.

Firstly, in the UK, CV fraud is a criminal offence punishable with up to 12 months in prison.

I work for a credential checking company. We process hundreds of thousands of cv checks every year. Of course companies check cvs. It's relatively easy to do.

Not every company does, but in a relatively small knowledge-based industry, you are quite likely to be caught out.

I've lied before, had an absolutely huge gap and couldn't get anything so it got filled.
But this is an industry you are clearly passionate about and you have a career in, if you get caught lying that would obviously have implications down the road, mine was very much getting a job vs a career so wouldn't have been massively awful if it had come out.

@thirstyformore Really? Your HR department must have bugger all to do if they are checking uni marks. How would they even know?

There are govt organisations called NARICS or in the UK, ENIC, that exist to check university marks and grades specifically for employers. In the US, there is the National Student Clearing House.

Do you think no one checks? It's quite common in regulated sectors. Would you like your brain surgeon to be able to lie about his medical school transcripts?

I had a job in HR years ago. Sometimes they check, mostly they don’t. Sometimes it comes out, most times not.

But when it did come out, my experience was that the person was inevitably let go. (Yes, even years later.) That may not be the case everywhere, and it may depend on how big the lie was (or it may not). Some companies, like mine, saw it as the tip of the iceberg and rather than try and figure out if there were more lies or just the one tiny one, they let the person go. This company might not.

So basically, if you lie, the probability is that nothing will ever happen. But it might.

The best thing to do is to only put the year you worked there, and if they ask, be honest but professional. So not “my boss was hell”, but “it’s a great company and I enjoyed/excelled at my job, but management was going through a transition and I needed to transfer to a position with more longevity,” or whatever best describes the actual situation. Then focus on what you learned there, e.g., how you successfully managed a team of six who raised the company’s net profits in your division by a measurable 3% over the first two quarters, not that you learned a lot from leaving because you always regretted not sticking it out.

Very good luck to you.

Right I left college back in 200
8 and then done another job after this job basically my third job in I'm qualifying as a dispenser now I know I'm not aware of what your doing but let me tell us the only GCSE I told the truth on was English. I didn't even go to science yet I had a double b in it 😂. They won't check unless they have been told otherwise. Also no matter whet now the GCSEs don't count and you will be made to sit maths/science or English grade 1-2 adult level it's basically a refresher x

I presume soem people lie, some people also commit crimes

No matter how it is chosen to be justified its wrong

So no I dont