Wow just wow. AIBU to think MH is a complete tw*t

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@JudesBiggestFan
I work for the police and we worked throughout, so my children were in school. To this date none of us have had covid. At my workplace, only one person has died of covid (I work in HR so know). The world honestly went mad. Looking at these messages gives me a mix of rage and sorrow...so much lost by so many, based on such little evidence.

I don't think you realise that school staff and children are STILL being affected by COVID even now, in a health capacity. We have ALL had COVID at my primary school, multiple times. Before and after vaccination. A large number of my colleagues, mostly the over 45s, now seem to be permanently affected by respiratory issues, so that when they catch a virus now, COVID or otherwise, they are wiped out by it, end up on steroid inhalers, multiple rounds of antibiotics, a couple with pneumonia, one with a partially collapsed lung, the luckiest have general chest infections which won't shift. Many of the children are similar actually. A friend at my previous school had to retire early because of long COVID (she had a pre-existing condition but caught COVID from school right before the first lockdown when we had pupils going off sick left right and centre, really poorly).

People that sit in an office with just a couple of other colleagues knowing feck all about what school staff have had to deal with the past few years, while implying they were workshy, really piss me off. You also seem to not realise the contradictions in your post as you mention that your children were in school because you worked throughout, whilst seeming to suggest that teachers did not want to be in school. THEY WERE THOUGH - Who exactly do you think were teaching your children in school, along with most of the rest of the school? A little band of Matt Hancock's teaching fairies that he magicked out of his arse?

Projecting much? Tories are the most feckless work shy parasites going.

I do sympathise with teachers as the pay freeze under David Cameron saw real pay fall and the promise that later things would improve has not materialised.

However, I also think that there were a significant number of teachers and schools in the pandemic that basically did as little as possible - and admitted it (not always on social media.) I don't think the teaching profession has looked good - ok the grade fiasco was initially the govts fault but the schools grades led to grade inflation, whilst over the last year many have just blamed the pandemic. I do think young people have been let down - the lockdown let them down, they were isolated in order to protect the elderly, added to that the school provision in many cases was very poor.

Are people not allowed to have private opinions? When they’re under extreme stress at work? If all of your WhatsApp messages were leaked, would they be entirely positive about everyone you’ve ever encountered?

This thread has made me feel quite weepy tbh. I was in school every fucking day teaching those who needed to be there. Additionally, I did online teaching with a few who should have been in but couldn't be, and created work for more.

I remember wiping the entry keypad before I used it and sanitising afterwards. I remember eating in my class because I wasn't allowed to be in the staff room. I remember not being able to touch anyone in school for forever.

How quickly people forget.

Of course, none of that is linked to the strikes. But anyone suggesting teachers don't work hard, or that the savage cuts to school funding is right, can fuck off to the far side of fuck off ville.

Of course you might want to explore Home Ed.

Who'd want to be a teacher now?! Every fucker seems to think they know how to teach. Yet, increasingly schools have to take on roles that parents seem unable to fulfil.

Before long, no one will want to teach or be frontline NHS. So much criticism from the armchair army who think they know better.

Gav and Matt, beacons of outstanding behaviour and judgement! Wouldn't expect anything better from them anyway. Maybe the unions were being difficult because the government terrified people into staying at home whilst the Tories partied and stuck two fingers up at people following the rules they set.

What a lazy shit I am. Just finished preparing tomorrow’s lesson after marking a set of books at 10.30pm. Oh and this is my day off too. (Not a strike day, I never work on a Wednesday before anyone questions it).

Hancock and Williamson are both incompetent and corrupt little shits. If they were graded along the lines of Ofsted, they would both be requiring improvement.

How is this in any way surprising?

ok the grade fiasco was initially the govts fault but the schools grades led to grade inflation

The grade fiasco was entirely the govt's fault. Do not put that on schools who were dumped in the shit when neither the DfE, nor Ofqual had a clue what to do so just threw up their hands and said 'schools can sort it', and gave us a couple of weeks to come up with our own, individual answers.

Oh please fuck off many of us had to nurse people dying of COVID in care homes no PPE or inadequate amounts. Relatives not allowed to say goodbye and inadequate pain relief to top it off. It was HORRENDOUS . Children are low risk and cev teachers were allowed to shield. Please don't make out teachers had it the worst they didn't , they didn't have to deal with death while having no protection.

I think the point is that some privately expressed opinions that people are allowd to hold still make you a dick. Also, most of us haven't sought high office so there's zero comparison.

Funny how this thread has turned from agreeing politicians are twats to arguing about teachers. Twas ever thus.

And, yes, I do think SOSs should be more mindful than most of their messages. Especially if they then give them all to Oakeshotte.

No body should fuck off, we are all victims. It’s not us against them. I should imagine all professions suffered!

I'm not a teacher but am well aware that teachers were teaching online and in person at the same time, so had a double workload. (Knew that without reading the thread, though I am aware that in itself is a crime)

It is such an echo chamber, just mindlessly parroting their tired invented 'talking points' back to each other. It's quite terrifying how they are entirely insulated by reality by their bizzarre complacency.

Utter utter wankers. The whole pack of them.

Teachers didn’t have it worse! But the Government has shafted us all! Let’s not turn on each other now.

Ah you're wasting your time. Save your energy. Schools have been trying to hide how bad it is to give the impression outwardly that all is well, otherwise parents panic. Behind the scenes education is a shit show. I suspect this is what has been happening in the NHS too. It's all quietly going to pot behind the scenes, held together by extremely dedicated and passionate people giving it their all and wearing themselves out in the process, until things are at a point where people start to stick their head above the parapet and shout for help. Which is basically what the strikes are. School staff just can't go on paying for stuff out of their own pockets anymore, or working hours and hours of overtime for free (as I, and many other support staff, do). Or taking on work that should be done by social services.

ps, @PaperLanterns , please remember that other school staff know how it is, and value what you do. And plenty of switched on intelligent parents know how it is too. Please don't leave the profession! Hang on there and hopefully a change of government will help to get us out of this terrible hole we're in before there are no teachers left for parents to complain about.

No one did that. That comment was aimed at someone who.literally works in HR. Not a care home. Everyone is angry about the care home situation. That doesn't make Curly's comments invalid. You are being rather unfair.

Yeah this doesn’t make sense.

Those utter bastard tories.

And those seeing this thread as yet another opportunity to teacher bash can fuck right off too. Ignorant beyond belief.

I absolutely love my DDs teacher this year who's working so hard to ensure all the children catch up. The teachers definitely deserve a payrise. The only time I get annoyed is on MN when the same posters try to make out teachers suffered the most during the pandemic or have the hardest job.

I endorse every word of this, couldn't have put it better. I work in a school and we were working hard in school, keeping to our bubbles and looking after key workers children and others that needed to be there. Unlike Downing Street where the corrupt arseholes were partying every night from the looks of it.

Given that Williamson's wife is (or was) a teacher, this must have made for some interesting conversations chez Gav 'n' Jo.

Which posters, @Fifi0102 ?
I keep seeing this allegation being rolled out, that teachers are saying they've had it worse than anyone, but I've never actually seen a teacher on here write that.

Amazing how many people, then and now, were prepared to throw teachers to the dogs, to work in conditions they did not deem safe for themselves, in order to avoid taking responsibility for their own children during a pandemic.

I wonder what those who have labelled teachers work shy in pandemic, were doing themselves in that self same pandemic?

I hope, come the GE, that this government, and all of its apologists (yes, I’m looking at you on this thread) get a massive fucking kick in the arse.

Oh, come now. You're just looking for an argument. Not one bit of my post discussed care home staff. I talked only about what goes on in schools, and stated that someone who sits in a cosy HR office won't realise half of what school staff have dealt with and are dealing with Yes, you're quite right, it was fucking horrendous for care home staff, i totally agree. We are not disagreeing about that so I don't know why you're making a thing of it. I am also not trying to make out that teachers had it the worst. Where HAVE you got that idea from what I've posted?

In fact, some of these posts are so silly that you start to wonder if staff at Mancock's or Williamson's offices are some of the posters. Trying to deflect what the real issue is, is that they are total scrotes of human beings with no conscience or affinity with real people.