To think behaviour in USA schools is better than UK?

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Any Americans on here who can tell me what behaviour is like in high schools in the states? In the UK it's pretty dire, bad language is rife, treatment of girls by boys is obscene, vaping in the toilets, rogue students wandering corridors, uncontrollable classes etc

Dont be so goady.

Im sure there is a wide range of behaviour in UK schools just like there is in schools in the USA

That’s all uk schools is it? All of them?

Not sure American schools are much to aspire to but whatever. There will always be bad behaviour and my kids school has some but, nothing outrageous.

Obviously depends on the school in question doesn’t it?
I went to school in both the UK and US. Behaviour at UK school was better. But demographics were also very different.

How often do UK schools have school shooters ?

American kids are all lovely to each other as they’re all walking round with guns

My dds aren't treated obscenely by boys at school.

At least my kids won't be shot at school.

I'd take bad language over mass shootings but that's just me

Well, kids here aren't regularly murdering their classmates.

Why are you posting that US behaviour is better and then asking people from the US what it's like. Indicating you don't know what you're talking about.

No one has been raped at my daughter's school, or stabbed, or shot. The children don't need to walk in via security gates with security guards ready to check why they set off the sensors.

We live in a city.

I think you'd struggle to find a single city high school in USA where at least one of the above hasn't happened in the last 5 years.

My sons and daughters behave in school as do the other students. I assume it’s the same in most schools in USA.

I mean schools in the US increasing have metal detectors in them to prevent kids bringing in knives and guns - but yeah it's all peachy over there.

I had a friend who was a teacher ( as was l) who went on an exchange to the US. Her experience was they were better behaved there because they need to pass each year to move up into the next year. Here they are automatically moved up.

However we both taught in a ‘leafy’ comp, and she went to a nice high school in the US.

I don't recognise that description of our schools. Our school has strict behaviour standards that some kids and parents moan about but we don't have kids roaming around between lessons or vaping in toilets, although one or two tried and that was cracked down on quickly. Swearing maybe, I don't see that as a big deal really.

What I have noticed in the time since I was in school is a huge improvement in pastoral care and a big reduction in bullying. I've been pleasantly surprised about how easily my teens have cruised through school, where my experience thirty years ago was on par with the Hunger Games.

YABU.

Well.you know mass school shootings Op?🙄

To an extent kids have to behave over there and get good grades else they won’t pass to the next grade. There is also a HUGE emphasis on extra curricular activities which I don’t think happens here

but the fact that there are regular shootings and metal detectors everywhere isn’t exactly an improvement is it?

Sounds nothing like my daughter's school, or my friends kids schools, or even the school I went to (not that many years ago)

Oddly enough schooling differences was part of a discussion with my partner last night. I'm currently in the UK with our daughter but trying to settle some family business so I can move back out to the states and he's lost that much confidence that he wants to use an online school as he no longer feels its safe plus a couple of other issues with regards to teaching itself.

My kids go to a state secondary in the UK. Their schools is not remotely like what you describe.

I watched a documentary on Marjory Stoneman High this week. I'm eternally grateful that will never be a possibility here.

Very different issues, neither side of the Atlantic are in a position to gloat.

That was my first thought too 😬

There are 27, 155 public and private high schools in the USA. As terrible as school shootings are, they are in a tiny fraction of high schools in the USA. High Schools are spread across 50 states in large and small cities, suburbs and countryside of every type. It is almost impossible to make huge generalizations. In our children’s high school the children are well behaved and violence and sexual assault would be expelling offences. I am not saying it doesn’t happen but any serious issues are extremely rare. I have had 3 kids go through the school and I can’t think of any thing like rape, stabbing etc. Just like everywhere it depends on school demographics, funding, caliber of staff and teachers, parental involvement etc etc

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/education-statistics-facts-about-american-schools/2019/01