To think behaviour in USA schools is better than UK?

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Any Americans on here who can tell me what behaviour is like in high schools in the states? In the UK it's pretty dire, bad language is rife, treatment of girls by boys is obscene, vaping in the toilets, rogue students wandering corridors, uncontrollable classes etc

It doesn’t matter about averages. If one student at one school shoots one other student at that school it puts paid to op’s ridiculous generalisation that all American schools have amazing behaviour while all British schools have awful behaviour. It’s absolutely stupid.

And even the other things she mentions - do you think American students have no problems with sexism, vaping/smoking, and poor behaviour? It is not American bashing in the slightest to say that bad behaviour in schools exists all over the world.

Wow. Not in my local secondary school I know that. Take it the school you mentioned has no teachers to control some badly behaved children. The children in the school I know are well behaved mostly and it's a big secondary school with three form entry. I have friends in us school and it's like lockdown getting in due to the massive gun problem...

Facts actually do matter, @Kanaloa.

If you're going to argue that one single shooting incident involving a current student negates all the rest of the millions of other students' decent behaviour, then you'll have to agree thst even a single incident of bullying or a knifing or a racist or sexist remark means all British school behaviour is godawful. Yes, that's how ridiculous your argument here is.

You are determined to misunderstand. It is not possible (and is also stupid) to say behaviour in all American schools is better than in all British schools.

I’ve never, ever said that behaviour in all American schools is godawful. I’ve said in my first post quite clearly that American schools have most of the same issues as British schools and will also have cases of bad behaviour, sexist behaviour, vaping or smoking etc. Acting as if American schools are so much better than all British schools is a ridiculous and untrue generalisation.

Or the equally typical 'Britain is the worst country ever for everything and anyone sensible is/ought to be planning to emigrate'

In my six or so years on MN, I've seen posts like that once or twice a year. I see the America bashing ones weekly. I do see quite a few threads rubbishing the NHS, but even those have some posters who say that the NHS is brilliant and perfect in every way.

Indeed. That would be tres amusing.

No wonder the word hysterical applies - in its proper sense. It is downright terrifying that gun toting students prowl some American schools. There is no way I would teach there.

American gun laws are a big issue. So deeply stupid.

The OP was goading others. She obviously can’t do subtlety.

I suspect that behaviour in American schools is no different to British, French or German schools.
Teenagers are pretty much the same anywhere in the world.
As far as I am aware the best behaved pupils are Japanese, but then they also have the highest suicide rate (or did have).

pretty sure they wouldn’t have you

No I genuinely work in a school that's just been graded as good by Ofsted a few months ago! 🤣🤣🤣 It's shit

The US bashing stems from a British inferiority complex imo. (I'm in the UK and neither American nor British).

There are badly behaved teenagers everywhere. Even in, gasp, Scandinavia.

I teach in an inner city school in England. The things you mention do happen but are swiftly dealt with. Most the pupils are pleasant,chatty and lazy. Most would not do the misdeamours you have mentioned. Is the parents of those difficult few patented,were able to access early intervention when problems arise,a lot of the issues would be eradicated

@BCBird I think the parents don't care

I can’t imagine most U.K. children coping with spontaneous carefully choreographed song and dance routines, and the constant asking people to Prom.

i, like the OP may have got my ideas of the US school system from Disney Plus.

There’s a huge difference in how funding works in America, most school funding comes from local government, so it’s things like property taxes that determine funding levels.

So I’d assume that makes for an even bigger difference between schools than in the U.K., here schools are different by area because of the demographic of the pupils in the USA you’ve got that and wealthier areas being way better funded too.

That’s all uk schools is it? All of them?

No. but post-covid behaviour has very much worsened. Anecdotal, I guess but certainly the case where I work and in my children’s school and is what is being said by many teacher friends.

No one has been raped at my daughter's school

How could you possibly know this is the case? Many rape victims never speak up.

My dds aren't treated obscenely by boys at school

I am glad that is the case for your children. It is not the case for all. The Andrew Tate effect is huge and something most schools are working hard to combat. Misogyny is rife and sadly, in my experience, supported by many girls who’s own life experience is (obviously) too limited to begin to see the nuance of women’s experience in the UK.