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To cut all ties with teenage son

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NinjaBunny87 · 28/02/2023 17:43

This is likely going to be longwinded but all relevant to where things stand right now.

I was a single mum as a teenager myself, his dad cut all ties in the very early years. Attempts made over the years to make contact but was bluntly told "not interested". Had the usual battles over the year with son's behaviour which hit a real brick wall when he was around 13. By this time I'd had 2 more children with my current partner of 10 years, always played a very supportive role as a step dad and did more than his fair share in parenting battles. When my son was around 14 his dad decided to make contact and they spoke, on and off, over the phone. I supported the idea of a relationship but made it clear the effort I had made his whole life to encourage his dad, non contact was nothing to do with my actions or decisions (dad lived other end of the country). He started skipping school, being abusive at home, destructive, sometimes violent towards me. Reached out for help for myself and for him. Help provided for me was limited, son rejected literally years of battling for mental health support, refusal to engage or attend appointments etc. Eventually he was kicked out of school within his last 2 months of year 11 after repeated outbursts at staff and refusal to follow rules. By this time, he had visited his dad a couple of times, a weekend here and there and we were in support of working together to get son on the right track. Got him into college to redo poor GCSEs with the intention of finding an apprenticeship and it lasted 2 months before he was again, asked to leave for disruptive behaviour and refusal to engage in work. We spent the next 2 months in constant battles trying to figure out where to go next, further refusal to help himself or to cooperate with the rest of the family. By this time, my 2 other children were really suffering for the atmosphere in the house and with very little outside family support, we were breaking under the pressure.

As a last ditch attempt to knock some sense into him about what he was doing to his future, I spoke to his dad about the possibility of him staying with him to sort himself out, thinking that the threat might be enough to make some positive changes. Turned out he had a gf living in the same area and jumped at the chance to leave. I tried to ask him to consider all his options but realised I'd made an offer he wasn't going to refuse and between my mum and his dad, he was moved within 2 weeks. Against my wishes. We were in the process of relocating about 40 miles away for partners work and after he made the snap decision to leave, he cut all contact for 2 months. I gave him his space and it turned out to be a good decision. When we spoke again, the pressure was off our relationship not being under the same roof and he'd managed to secure himself an amazing opportunity as an apprentice with a very good company in the field of work he'd always dreamed of and for a short while, things were going well.

Fast forward to last summer and my dad unexpectedly and suddenly passed away, a week before our house move and shortly before my youngest children were starting a new school. My relationship with my eldest remained the best it had been in a long time and I feel like we really connected and supported each other through a tremendous loss. The level of grief I've experienced since losing a parent has overwhelmed me enormously and I've struggled to find myself since it happened, plans for a fresh start in a new area and kick starting a career I put on hold has been put on pause while I try and navigate my way through. I also suffer health issues and a diabetes related eating disorder, I often feel like I'm drowning in what I need to manage. Since finding out I inherited a sum of money after my dad's passing, my son has had an expectation of what I should be providing for him. I offered to help buy him a car after he passed his test, I've put money away for all 3 grandchildren. But then my eldest stopped paying his phone bill (a contract I am paying for) and started spending all of his wages on not just his gf, but his gfs family. Fine, he earns a wage but I wanted money from his grandad to go towards his future. When we didn't receive birthday cards, the visits stopped and he decided not to come home for Christmas I called him out on it. I said we felt used and forgotten and taken for granted. Yet again, son has cut me off, since the beginning of the year. I have reached out to him and when I have refused to send him money, he has blocked me once again. I've tried his gf and his dad and been met with "respect my space." Today's effort has pushed me over the edge. I feel rejected and used, he will not accept responsibility for how he's made someone else feel and trying to make him understand that, without handing over a wad of cash, is falling on deaf ears.

He turns 18 in May and based on history and knowing him inside out and back to front, I know he will suddenly decide to welcome me back with open arms as that approaches. With the expectation I will be going all out for a significant birthday. I desperately want to be a part of his life but I feel like he expects me to pay for it, that my love is measured by how much I'm willing to spend. It wouldn't sit right with me to accept this is how I need to keep him in my life, but then it doesn't sit right not being a part of his life either.

If you've got this far then thank you! Please be kind, this is genuinely tearing me up and I'm at a loss. I'm a mum first and foremost but what it's doing to my mental health is crippling and I have two other children to consider. Any advice or similar experiences would be appreciated

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Sugargliderwombat · 28/02/2023 20:41

He Is only 17 I don't think you can give up on him yet. I'd actually lie if the money comes up again, just say its gone or it's tied up now. Just don't give him money and when he grows up a bit and works through whatever he is going through your relationship will settle. 17 year olds are very selfish. Please don't give up on him permanently.

Summerfun54321 · 28/02/2023 20:53

Do you live in a parallel universe where parents casually disown their children left right and centre? First his dad and now you? This is not normal, normal decent humans don't give up on their kids.

Jellycats4life · 28/02/2023 20:54

The impression I got by the time I reached the end of your post, as much as I could hear your turmoil and pain, it was very much your side of the story, and your son’s side might be quite different.

He’s young and maybe a little pig headed (par for the course at that age) and doesn’t send cards. My brother is well into his 30s and still struggles to send a Mother’s Day card to our mum. It’s crappy and hurtful but it’s not the worst crime.

I thought the post from @Namechangethisevening was wise.

girlfriend44 · 28/02/2023 20:57

Nothing like money to divide people.
It's your money don't give it to him.

He should love his mum because she's his mum not cos she's got some money.

AltheaVestr1t · 28/02/2023 21:03

Good god no. Please no. I have a parent who has cut contact with me for various reasons and I can't begin to tell you the psychological harm and damage it has done me. He is your child. And he is still a child! It sounds like he is a selfish young man but he has plenty of time to learn and it is your responsibility to stick by him. Set boundaries, demand respect and don't hold back from explaining how his actions make you feel. But I can promise you that if you cut ties you have consigned your son to a lifetime of low self-esteem and poor mental health, which will inevitably be passed down to his children in turn.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 28/02/2023 21:10

Just imagine how your ds felt when you unilaterally decided to move 40 miles away from his friends and everything he knows and then told him to move out. He’s still a child and you are being very hard on him.

DancingDaughter50 · 28/02/2023 21:13

Keep strong with the money say its what your dad would have wanted.

How much was it? If it was 5 grand I woud have given him 500 to spend. With the premise there is no more money for fun coming. Any further funds would be to buy something with.
I would also lie about the amount and keep some back for the future... Give it out in instalments preferably after age 25.

DancingDaughter50 · 28/02/2023 21:16

@Namechangethisevening

Totally agree he's in deep pain about something.
Something you may never have noticed or perceived.

Agree to keep reassurance keep turning up and smiling.
Don't hold money over him be firm.
Say its exactly what you will do for the other children.

Don't argue stay clear.

dottypotter · 28/02/2023 21:16

Some people are disgusting as soon as there is a sniff of money.

It's yours, not his, it was left to you.
I knew someone and she was divorced and her son lived with his dad and was always after what he could get from his mum.
Never bothered even with a Mother's Day card for her and got nasty if she wouldn't pay gor things for him.
She kept wanting to please him, but she saw the light in the end, realised it was all about money.
That's not love. Be careful.
It's your money not his.

Murdoch1949 · 28/02/2023 21:16

Offer to take him out for lunch on his birthday. Just you 2, so you can talk. Give him a card & gift, but no money. Then see how it goes. He may stop using you as a cash machine if he realises you're serious.

DancingDaughter50 · 28/02/2023 21:18

He's not some person though he is her son.

DancingDaughter50 · 28/02/2023 21:20

"had all the usual battles with behaviour" hit a wall at 13.

I've not had any battles over behaviour at all! Not everyone does what were these battles.

Liorae · 28/02/2023 21:21

Onnabugeisha · 28/02/2023 19:29

Amends for what?! I’ve reread the long ass OP and he’s not done anything wrong.

Dis you miss the bit about being abusive and violent toward the OP?

girlfriend44 · 28/02/2023 21:22

Summerfun54321 · 28/02/2023 20:53

Do you live in a parallel universe where parents casually disown their children left right and centre? First his dad and now you? This is not normal, normal decent humans don't give up on their kids.

Decent humans don't treat their parents badly.
What did he need space from his mum for. The one who bought him into this world and loved and cared for him.
He's obvs after her money. Sod that.

Valhalla17 · 28/02/2023 21:30

He's a 17yr old child. Teenage years are tough for many families, you can't just give up like that OP.

Wheredothesocksgo · 28/02/2023 21:33

I have a son the same age and similar-ish family circumstances. His dad is useless and he has younger half siblings. I cannot understand how it all came to this. Its so sad for you all but especially for him. He's been rejected by his father all his life then told to move in with him. Imagine how that must have felt.

It just beggars belief that some have responded telling you to cut him off. He's your child. He is entitled to make mistakes and be forgiven for them. Where is the unconditional love a child should be able to expect?

Honestly, my heart breaks for him.

I hope you can find a way to put your own feelings aside and give your son the love and guidance he needs. I cannot imagine the pain that not having your child in your life would cause you both.

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 21:36

girlfriend44 · 28/02/2023 21:22

Decent humans don't treat their parents badly.
What did he need space from his mum for. The one who bought him into this world and loved and cared for him.
He's obvs after her money. Sod that.

He is a teenager - trust me on the scale of things that can happen - ops child is at the very higher end of normal. He is not using her, he is, like everyone else trying to get his needs met.

PleasantZen · 28/02/2023 21:36

He needs your unconditional love

Sunriseinwonderland · 28/02/2023 21:38

I would never ever give up on my DS no matter what.

Sobloodysoreandfedup · 28/02/2023 21:49

I can't see what he has done to deserve you wanting to "cut all ties"?

Murdered someone - yes probably justified. This just sounds like a mixed up teenager.

Liorae · 28/02/2023 21:52

Wheredothesocksgo · 28/02/2023 21:33

I have a son the same age and similar-ish family circumstances. His dad is useless and he has younger half siblings. I cannot understand how it all came to this. Its so sad for you all but especially for him. He's been rejected by his father all his life then told to move in with him. Imagine how that must have felt.

It just beggars belief that some have responded telling you to cut him off. He's your child. He is entitled to make mistakes and be forgiven for them. Where is the unconditional love a child should be able to expect?

Honestly, my heart breaks for him.

I hope you can find a way to put your own feelings aside and give your son the love and guidance he needs. I cannot imagine the pain that not having your child in your life would cause you both.

I don't see domestic violence as a little mistake to be forgiven easily, whether from a partner or a son. I wonder how he treats his girlfriend.

NinjaBunny87 · 28/02/2023 22:03

Okay, will try and address a few bits for clarity. A huge part I failed to mention was that back in November he called me to tell me he was quitting his apprenticeship with no back up job, due to mental health. I encouraged him to speak to a GP, I reached out to his dad to encourage he support him with it. I was hugely worried about his state of mind if it was costing his job. About a month before he quit he moved from his dads house, rent free, in with his gfs family who were charging him rent. The expectation of money after finding out about my inheritance came from having no wage coming in and then demanding money from me to cover his costs.

When I said he moved against my wishes, the talk with his dad was a suggestion. Against my wishes was because the actual day of the move was arranged and happened without my knowledge. He came home one day, packed a small bag and was gone the following morning. I begged him to slow down and if it was going to be something he did, we did it properly.

I would never "give up" on my son. Whenever he has needed me, when he lived with me or since he hasn't, I have always been on the end of the phone. I gave him the option to move back in with me, we have a room ready and waiting for if that decision was made. My AIBU is not about stopping loving my son, its about reaching out for that relationship and being rejected unless I pay out. It hurts. I think sometimes as a parent it gets forgotten that our hearts break too. I talk, I listen, I make allowances and I try. But I'm also a person with feelings! Adult or child, it's never nice to feel rejected. And for the record, I have never and will never reject my child. But how many times do I need to feel that way, I think at 17 almost 18 and with a live in gf, he's old enough to understand how not to hurt someone you love and who loves you.

Thankyou for the kind words and advice, I appreciate it all, good and bad x

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NinjaBunny87 · 28/02/2023 22:07

He wasn't told to move in with his dad, he was given the option for a fresh start and some different guidance because I felt like I wasn't helping him no matter what I tried.

At what point have I said I don't have unconditional love for my son? Everything I've ever gone through has been with his best interests at heart.

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FrostyNethers · 28/02/2023 22:18

Yes YADBU to cut all ties with your 17 year old DC!

Sounds like your nose was put out of joint that he went to live with his Dad? Is it really so unforgivable that your 17 year old child was asking you for money when he had no job?!

Sorry but can’t believe what I’m reading having older DC of 26, 21 and 20 who all still need help and support, and can be selfish arseholes sometimes.

FrostyNethers · 28/02/2023 22:20

Also how does your DC get on with his stepdad? Is that why he moved to his Dads?

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