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To cut all ties with teenage son

122 replies

NinjaBunny87 · 28/02/2023 17:43

This is likely going to be longwinded but all relevant to where things stand right now.

I was a single mum as a teenager myself, his dad cut all ties in the very early years. Attempts made over the years to make contact but was bluntly told "not interested". Had the usual battles over the year with son's behaviour which hit a real brick wall when he was around 13. By this time I'd had 2 more children with my current partner of 10 years, always played a very supportive role as a step dad and did more than his fair share in parenting battles. When my son was around 14 his dad decided to make contact and they spoke, on and off, over the phone. I supported the idea of a relationship but made it clear the effort I had made his whole life to encourage his dad, non contact was nothing to do with my actions or decisions (dad lived other end of the country). He started skipping school, being abusive at home, destructive, sometimes violent towards me. Reached out for help for myself and for him. Help provided for me was limited, son rejected literally years of battling for mental health support, refusal to engage or attend appointments etc. Eventually he was kicked out of school within his last 2 months of year 11 after repeated outbursts at staff and refusal to follow rules. By this time, he had visited his dad a couple of times, a weekend here and there and we were in support of working together to get son on the right track. Got him into college to redo poor GCSEs with the intention of finding an apprenticeship and it lasted 2 months before he was again, asked to leave for disruptive behaviour and refusal to engage in work. We spent the next 2 months in constant battles trying to figure out where to go next, further refusal to help himself or to cooperate with the rest of the family. By this time, my 2 other children were really suffering for the atmosphere in the house and with very little outside family support, we were breaking under the pressure.

As a last ditch attempt to knock some sense into him about what he was doing to his future, I spoke to his dad about the possibility of him staying with him to sort himself out, thinking that the threat might be enough to make some positive changes. Turned out he had a gf living in the same area and jumped at the chance to leave. I tried to ask him to consider all his options but realised I'd made an offer he wasn't going to refuse and between my mum and his dad, he was moved within 2 weeks. Against my wishes. We were in the process of relocating about 40 miles away for partners work and after he made the snap decision to leave, he cut all contact for 2 months. I gave him his space and it turned out to be a good decision. When we spoke again, the pressure was off our relationship not being under the same roof and he'd managed to secure himself an amazing opportunity as an apprentice with a very good company in the field of work he'd always dreamed of and for a short while, things were going well.

Fast forward to last summer and my dad unexpectedly and suddenly passed away, a week before our house move and shortly before my youngest children were starting a new school. My relationship with my eldest remained the best it had been in a long time and I feel like we really connected and supported each other through a tremendous loss. The level of grief I've experienced since losing a parent has overwhelmed me enormously and I've struggled to find myself since it happened, plans for a fresh start in a new area and kick starting a career I put on hold has been put on pause while I try and navigate my way through. I also suffer health issues and a diabetes related eating disorder, I often feel like I'm drowning in what I need to manage. Since finding out I inherited a sum of money after my dad's passing, my son has had an expectation of what I should be providing for him. I offered to help buy him a car after he passed his test, I've put money away for all 3 grandchildren. But then my eldest stopped paying his phone bill (a contract I am paying for) and started spending all of his wages on not just his gf, but his gfs family. Fine, he earns a wage but I wanted money from his grandad to go towards his future. When we didn't receive birthday cards, the visits stopped and he decided not to come home for Christmas I called him out on it. I said we felt used and forgotten and taken for granted. Yet again, son has cut me off, since the beginning of the year. I have reached out to him and when I have refused to send him money, he has blocked me once again. I've tried his gf and his dad and been met with "respect my space." Today's effort has pushed me over the edge. I feel rejected and used, he will not accept responsibility for how he's made someone else feel and trying to make him understand that, without handing over a wad of cash, is falling on deaf ears.

He turns 18 in May and based on history and knowing him inside out and back to front, I know he will suddenly decide to welcome me back with open arms as that approaches. With the expectation I will be going all out for a significant birthday. I desperately want to be a part of his life but I feel like he expects me to pay for it, that my love is measured by how much I'm willing to spend. It wouldn't sit right with me to accept this is how I need to keep him in my life, but then it doesn't sit right not being a part of his life either.

If you've got this far then thank you! Please be kind, this is genuinely tearing me up and I'm at a loss. I'm a mum first and foremost but what it's doing to my mental health is crippling and I have two other children to consider. Any advice or similar experiences would be appreciated

OP posts:
Mum23amazingkids · 28/02/2023 18:59

Don’t give up on him , he is only a kid at 17 and he had a rough few years . He has no maturity . You might be feedbup but he is still your child and he needs you more than you realise .

SeriouslyLTB · 28/02/2023 19:04

“I love you, I will always be here for you. Take what space you want/need. There will be no more money, but all the love you ever need, no matter what you do/say.”

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2023 19:04

He didn’t move away against your wishes, you arranged it with this dad (who hon it sounds like he’d had little contact with). You can’t be annoyed with him over something you suggested and arranged!
did you not send him birthday cards or he didn’t send you them.
mad the parent it’s really up to you to keep trying. He sounds a pita but you can’t just send him elsewhere because it’s better for you and your second family

BungleandGeorge · 28/02/2023 19:06

At 17 you should be still paying for him, it’s pretty standard to pay for a phone contract, why would that change because he’s living with his dad? Large amounts of inheritance obviously fine not to give away, unless it was specifically left to him?

Quitelikeit · 28/02/2023 19:15

The first mistake you made is telling him about an inheritance- what were the rules regarding this inheritance? All kids to get the money whenever or when they reach a certain age?

Either way in your shoes I would have kept quiet about this until such a time presented itself where he could handle money wisely

however having said that since the cat is out of the bag how much are we talking? 1k 2k? If so I’d just hand it over to him. But let him know the other kids money is tucked away for a car or house deposit

As it is his 18th still get him a gift but I certainly wouldn’t be giving him cash

Remember also that even if he is frittering his wages away that at his age it’s nice to be able to be carefree before the responsibility of being in the real world takes hold!! I mean he must of only had a couple of pays and at 17 you can’t expect him to act like a 30 year old

Whoneedsleep · 28/02/2023 19:21

One of my parents cut me off for very similar pathetic reasons (the birthday card was one of them!)

Now I’m much much older I realise how much my parent should have been the bigger person- a teenager isn’t adult enough for that. I won’t ever forgive them for it and I imagine your DS would feel the same.

baffledcoconut · 28/02/2023 19:22

He’s angry. He’s still a child. If he can’t have love and support he may as well have money. And money is also a way to hurt you to play out his feelings. He’s probably deeply troubled and crying out for a proper relationship and love.

Ive been where he is and my attitude was ‘I’m not important to them to accommodate my life so I may as well take what I can get’ It runs deep and it runs for years and years.

Don’t ignore his pain. Do something for his birthday and don’t just throw money at him to make it better. He needs love, support and actions. Don’t give up.

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/02/2023 19:27

Stop running after him. If he wants to be in your life, he can be an adult and make amends.

Onnabugeisha · 28/02/2023 19:29

SwordToFlamethrower · 28/02/2023 19:27

Stop running after him. If he wants to be in your life, he can be an adult and make amends.

Amends for what?! I’ve reread the long ass OP and he’s not done anything wrong.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/02/2023 19:32

You sent your ds to live with the dad he’d only known for 2/3 years age 17 whilst you moved away with your dh and joint children. Can you not see how badly your ds will probably have felt rejected? The message I’m imagining he received is - ‘we are going to live much happier lives without you, you’re not wanted here’.

You said you were a teenager when you had your ds. Surely you remember what it’s like to be that young? His dad couldn’t cope and cut contact. That’s the template he’s now learned. And you don’t really know what he and his dad are saying to one another.

I think you shouldn’t give up. Give him space. Keep the door open. Send him a birthday gift and show him unlike his dad over the years, you have always been a constant in his life. That doesn’t mean being a doormat but remembering we chose to have our children and they are not beholden to us.

AmandaClare · 28/02/2023 19:52

OP, I mean this kindly but can you explain briefly what he’s down that so bad you’d consider cutting ties? I’ve read your post twice and I can’t see it and am genuinely wondering if I’m misunderstanding.

Choconut · 28/02/2023 19:56

He's your child. You don't cut ties because he's acting like a teenager.

Have you made the effort to meet his GF and her family? Maybe they're really kind, supportive, encouraging people.

You sound very, very self absorbed to be honest. If you want a relationship with a teen to work you don't 'call them out' on not visiting enough and say they're using you.

I'm sorry if you can't see how your behaviour has led to this.

taxpayer1 · 28/02/2023 19:58

Probably you fought to remove the father from his life. Now that it is not convenient, you want to get rid of the poor child.

saleorbouy · 28/02/2023 20:00

He still needs to know you are there for him if he needs you but you should not let his behaviour towards you go without acknowledgement on his part.
If he wants to be an independent adult then he also has to build an adult relationship with you where you can both say how you feel and have a mutual respect that any family member could reasonably expect.
I'm sure in time things will improve but he needs to know you're not desperate for his grumpy company, and neither will you buy his attention.
It's sad he treats you this way and hopefully he'll realise it's no way to treat your mother.

hellywelly3 · 28/02/2023 20:03

He’s still a kid, it’s not his job to be the bigger person that’s your job as the parent. You don’t get to demand his love and attention

Littlefaeries · 28/02/2023 20:07

taxpayer1 · 28/02/2023 19:58

Probably you fought to remove the father from his life. Now that it is not convenient, you want to get rid of the poor child.

Probably you didn’t read the OP’s comment properly.

AaaaaandBreathe · 28/02/2023 20:11

Springchicken75 · 28/02/2023 18:26

Op he is still a child, both literally as legally.

When I read the title I was expecting to read drug taking, stealing from you, severe violence - cutting off your own child is the most enormous, irreversible decision.

I have read that he is working, doing well, has a gf and his chief crimes now are forgetting your birthday and being materialistic ( plenty of teens are the same) I can’t believe you would cut him off for this. Honestly I am shocked.
Yes his obviously had his issues at school and college but he has moved on. Let him move on. Don’t use his difficulties against him.

I think you some support and counselling - starting with your bereavement, and buy him exactly what you would have done for his 18th before this rupture.

Cut him some slack, be open to his point of view regarding his childhood experiences, be loving and don’t even think about cutting him off (on some level he will know you have checked out) Thank goodness you posted op. Take care

Very well put.

My son of the same age acts similarly (doesn't buy presents, prefers spending time with friends/gf). I would never withdraw support or love. Yes, he acts selfishly but he's still young and finding out his own way.

This also stood out to me but made it clear the effort I had made his whole life to encourage his dad, non contact was nothing to do with my actions or decisions

He was basically told his Dad didn't care about him. I don;t think you can underestimate how difficult it is for a child who has/had an absent parent.

You say he makes an effort on his girlfriend and her family. I think you both need to properly listen to each other and get your relationship back on track.

AaaaaandBreathe · 28/02/2023 20:13

hellywelly3 · 28/02/2023 20:03

He’s still a kid, it’s not his job to be the bigger person that’s your job as the parent. You don’t get to demand his love and attention

👏

DarcyBlue · 28/02/2023 20:18

Are you cutting ties with your 17 year old son because… he forgot to send a birthday card? From his new home with his father who rejected him, in a move that you facilitated? Perhaps he didn’t have the address of your new family home. Poor kid!

Be the parent, choose to be consistent and loving to your teenage son. Sounds like he has been through a lot.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 28/02/2023 20:19

I honestly feel a bit sorry for your ds, it sounds like he has been hard work as a teenager but that's not unusual. I wonder if his dad turning up after no contact for a long time unearthed some deep seated issues.

He's actually found a way to grow up and manage his emotions, at least to an extent, but you sound determined to be angry with him.

He's 17, he's your son, he's not done anything unforgivable 🤷‍♀️

I think it's probably easier for you to put all the blame for the difficulties that your ds has faced onto your ds which is really unfair.

Donotgogentle · 28/02/2023 20:24

CiderJolly · 28/02/2023 18:05

He is only 17, has been through a lot too, none of it his own choosing.

Agree with spending on him, for his birthday, what you would usually spend and treat him as you normally would- anything else would be you withholding money unless he behaves as you want which is no better than him withholding contact unless you spend money.

Model good behaviour, keep telling him you love him.

This is good advice.

Keep going OP.

Greenfairydust · 28/02/2023 20:25

So basically this kid will have two parents who have divorced then fucked off to live their lives with other people and don't really want the trouble to look after him.

Nice.

Stompythedinosaur · 28/02/2023 20:26

You are expecting him to act like an adult, but he's only a child. You are talking about him living independently and paying his phone bill, he's just a kid, you are expecting too much.

You speak about him very negatively, and I noticed you talk about your own needs as much as his, almost like you feel like a peer rather than his parent.

My guess is that family therapy might be helpful.

It would be an awful thing to cut him off, and would be failing to recognise your role in how he is.

Quartz2208 · 28/02/2023 20:29

What stood out to me was you wanting him to take responsibility for how he made you feel but nothing in your OP addresses how he feels.

it is a lot of what you expect from him but actually you haven’t been his primary career for awhile - you simply don’t address that.

but I think perhaps the truth is there are no ties to cut because he has cut them already

Singularity82 · 28/02/2023 20:30

I voted YANBU. My heart goes out to you, it’s so tough. I don’t think you should cut all ties (but tbh from reading your thread, despite the title, I don’t think you would anyway). Celebrate his birthday in the way you usually would, but don’t hand over wads of cash either. He will, with guidance and firm boundaries, grow out of this selfish teenage phase. But ignoring his birthday will cause so much hurt and potentially lasting damage to your relationship. I wish you all the strength in the world. This won’t last forever. 💐