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I am so fed up of a lack of food in shops.

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OutofEverything · 23/02/2023 00:51

This has been going on for a few years but is only getting worse. I had to go to 3 supermarkets before I found some eggs. No lettuce at all, a few packs of salad tomatoes available in one supermarket, loads of empty spaces in the fruit and veg section, and in ASDA even the freezers had loads of empty spaces.

Before anyone says yes I know we will not starve, there is enough actual food. But a visit to a supermarket now is a lottery about what will be available and what is missing. And more and more I am having to visit multiple shops to get absolute basics.

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Greatly · 24/02/2023 07:38

SilverGlitterBaubles · 24/02/2023 07:22

The war mentality has to stop. I for one am totally sick of a hankering towards penury, frugality, acceptance, carrying on, not complaining etc. It is the British way I suppose, but that attitude has us where we are.

This 100%. We need to expect more and demand more of our government. We are not at war, we should not be at the mercy of their relentless poor decision making while they help
line the pockets of their big companies and their cronies. Just looks at the damage Liz Truss inflicted with her disastrous budget, her actions literally wiped a sizeable chunk off people's pensions and caused mortgage rates to rise leaving us all worse off when in an already perilous situation. And what happened people just shrugged it off, joked about a lettuce and carried on. That they are still in government just beggars belief.

Petition and avoid the supermarkets and buy from independent greengrocers, it's really straightforward.

beguilingeyes · 24/02/2023 07:41

ropeycorn · 24/02/2023 03:41

Forage,Cameron,Johnson 3 guilty men who in a civilised country would be in jail for high treason.

Amen sister, and their ERG headbanger cronies are still running the country.
It boggles the mind how Therese Coffey gets a senior job anywhere let alone at the highest level of government. They are laughing at us and not even bothering to hide it now.
The level of ignorance, apathy and incompetence is staggering.

beguilingeyes · 24/02/2023 07:45

This obsession with WW2 is incredible. In a country where almost no one alive actually remembers it.
The xenophobic flag-shagging whenever there's a football match against Germany. It's infantile and as a country we need to grow up.

xsquared · 24/02/2023 08:06

I saw this yesterday on FB from a local independent grocer.

Another good reason to support independent shops if you can.

I am so fed up of a lack of food in shops.
BulldogSpirit · 24/02/2023 08:10

beguilingeyes · 24/02/2023 07:45

This obsession with WW2 is incredible. In a country where almost no one alive actually remembers it.
The xenophobic flag-shagging whenever there's a football match against Germany. It's infantile and as a country we need to grow up.

You are obviously no true Englishwoman! The match against Germany is a tradition, a bit of friendly rivalry. They love it just as much as us 😂

SilverGlitterBaubles · 24/02/2023 08:12

@beguilingeyes I do find the obsession with WW2 pretty staggering. My hope is that there is a whole new generation of voters who are more politically aware and less influenced by the obsessions of their grandparents and our mainstream media.

postwarbulge · 24/02/2023 08:17

The days of the one-stop shop seem to be over, as you need to trawl around a succession of shops and supermarkets to find even staples: Tesco has no bread, Morrisons has no milk, etc. It reminds me of my mother's tales of shopping in the days of rationing.

Turtletumy · 24/02/2023 08:25

Brexit

TodayInahurry · 24/02/2023 08:26

Around here our locals shops and Waitrose of plenty of food. Salad crops, tomatoes have suffered in the extreme cold in the whole of Europe as well as the UK and UK glass house growers can’t afford to heat glasshouses due to the Ukraine war pushing up fuel costs. All my plants in my small veg patch died due to cold.

Kingkong2022 · 24/02/2023 08:36

All the people going ‘we have no shortage in London so it’s ok’ or ‘I don’t eat salad so it’s ok’ or ‘I get my eggs from my free roaming chickens so it’s ok’ are massively missing the point of the post. There are shortages of common fruit and veg that many many people eat and which are out of season in the uk but have been readily available for decades. Perhaps the fact that this appears not to be a problem in London is another issue in itself? Why not? Why just a problem in the ‘provinces’ where there was not a single tomato or cucumber in my local supermarkets this week from Aldi to Waitrose?

beguilingeyes · 24/02/2023 08:48

BulldogSpirit · 24/02/2023 08:10

You are obviously no true Englishwoman! The match against Germany is a tradition, a bit of friendly rivalry. They love it just as much as us 😂

I didn't mean the supporters so much as the Tabloid Press who get unpleasantly jingoistic at any excuse.

Stillcountingbeans · 24/02/2023 08:57

liveforsummer · 23/02/2023 19:21

The bounty of the past few decades is over and won't be coming back.

Why? If what we are being told is true? There won't always be adverse weather conditions. The war in Ukraine won't last forever (although a poster with family there says they are unaffected in much of the country). There won't be bird flu year round every year. The only thing not going away is brexit and it's not that, so they say.....

The weather, war, bird-flu, Brexit, etc. are all transient conditions. Even with all of them coming together they are not enough to cause the persistent issues we have seen around us for several years now. There are issues not just in food, but in all sorts of difficulties and problems throughout the economies of most countries around the world.

What we are being told is partial truth; we are not being told everything in order to "mange public reaction" or some such reason.

The root cause is the underlying energy crisis. Google "peak oil" and start studying.

JocelynBurnell · 24/02/2023 09:24

These food shortages are not transient but are here to stay.

71% of UK land area is used for agricultural production. The problem is the majority of this being grassland for grazing rather than crops. With concerns for the availability for labour for harvests, agricultural land is moving to grassland resulting in a decreasing supply of fruit and vegetables.

Bonjovispjs · 24/02/2023 09:26

Just been shopping in sainsburys in North West London and all the shelves are completely full of fruit/veg/eggs etc, not a single empty space 🤔

PurpleButterflyWings · 24/02/2023 09:43

Nimbostratus100 · 23/02/2023 08:35

we all know its Brexit. And we all know that those who voted for it will still jump in and try and twist and force evidence artificially to say it is not

YAWWNNNNN. How do you explain the food shortages in loads of other countries then? Is that Brexit too? You lost. Deal with it. You can't be butthurt til the end of time ya know. Wink

Bloopsie · 24/02/2023 09:45

PurpleButterflyWings · 24/02/2023 09:43

YAWWNNNNN. How do you explain the food shortages in loads of other countries then? Is that Brexit too? You lost. Deal with it. You can't be butthurt til the end of time ya know. Wink

They dont,not even ukraine?

lazycats · 24/02/2023 09:45

Whether it's actually a result of brexit or not barely matters at this point. It's all part of the post-brexit landscape and bby simple osmosis will make the enterprise even more unpopular.

MarshaBradyo · 24/02/2023 09:47

TinyCactusInAPot · 23/02/2023 21:48

Why do people think it’s just in the U.K.? Such an island mentality 😁😉

for example: www.metronieuws.nl/in-het-nieuws/binnenland/2023/02/groenten-dure-tomaten-schappen-groente-supermarkt/

from the Dutch news, and they grow almost all the salad veg for Europe

shortages in Holland too. And no Dutchit to blame

True re the mentality

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 24/02/2023 09:48

I’m in London and haven’t come across it, which I think is particularly worrying tbh - that there’s so much difference across different parts of the country.

I do also think it’s very weird and concerning when some people are gleeful about it.

What I think is disturbing is why this has come about - the harm we’ve inflicted on ourselves by Brexit.

Im a bit relaxed about not getting the exact things I need personally- and as we never had decent tomatoes readily available here anyway, I’m not very worried about those - but it’s the reasons why it’s happening that really bother me.

ChungusBoi · 24/02/2023 09:56

JocelynBurnell · 24/02/2023 09:24

These food shortages are not transient but are here to stay.

71% of UK land area is used for agricultural production. The problem is the majority of this being grassland for grazing rather than crops. With concerns for the availability for labour for harvests, agricultural land is moving to grassland resulting in a decreasing supply of fruit and vegetables.

This ⬆️

sixfoot · 24/02/2023 10:07

PurpleButterflyWings · 24/02/2023 09:43

YAWWNNNNN. How do you explain the food shortages in loads of other countries then? Is that Brexit too? You lost. Deal with it. You can't be butthurt til the end of time ya know. Wink

No, YOU lost. Has the penny really not dropped yet?

ImAvingOops · 24/02/2023 10:08

There's 60million people (approximately) in this country - there shouldn't be labour shortages! What there is, is lack of decent wages, investment in training etc.

Then you have people like Therese Coffey banging on that people should just work harder or eat cake turnips - some Tories won't be happy until workhouses are back! The truth is, they've mismanaged the country and failed to prepare for entirely predictable situations or have any contingency plans for those situations which were not.
Our government are probably the most expensively educated people in the country, yet they have been completely incompetent at their jobs.

Solonge · 24/02/2023 10:31

TodayInahurry · 24/02/2023 08:26

Around here our locals shops and Waitrose of plenty of food. Salad crops, tomatoes have suffered in the extreme cold in the whole of Europe as well as the UK and UK glass house growers can’t afford to heat glasshouses due to the Ukraine war pushing up fuel costs. All my plants in my small veg patch died due to cold.

Stop spreading misinformation. The colder weather hasnt affected salad crops in any country in Europe…never mind EU….we are the only country. Ireland has full supplies…delivered on ships and planes…how come? Our suppliers in the EU are no longer willing to put their lorry drivers through 78 hours of waiting at ports for endless paper work. Most of our tomatoes came from Holland…they have a huge excess…the ones we used to have….but their drivers get paid per job…not per hour…so they wont drive to the UK. BREXIT is the reason. Every single supermarket boss bears this out.

PurpleButterflyWings · 24/02/2023 10:34

@Solonge

WRONG ^ As you were.... Wink

PurpleButterflyWings · 24/02/2023 10:34

Also @sixfoot WRONG! As you were... Wink

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