I am so fed up of a lack of food in shops.

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This has been going on for a few years but is only getting worse. I had to go to 3 supermarkets before I found some eggs. No lettuce at all, a few packs of salad tomatoes available in one supermarket, loads of empty spaces in the fruit and veg section, and in ASDA even the freezers had loads of empty spaces.

Before anyone says yes I know we will not starve, there is enough actual food. But a visit to a supermarket now is a lottery about what will be available and what is missing. And more and more I am having to visit multiple shops to get absolute basics.

The veg thing is not happening in Europe despite dodgy weather. Defo Brexit and also the fact their govts help with utility bills which helps indoor growing. Literally not one benefit of Brexit.

Also Brexit, Europeans didn't come to pick veg and Brits didn't want to, loads went to waste.

If we’re going back to war/post war, we’ll need to start digging up other spaces such as parks and public gardens. Which is going to involve people giving up their time to do that as well as their own garden.

I live in London. A large proportion of people live in flats with no gardens and I don't think there are enough parks in the world to feed ten million people.
This isn't Dad's Army.

If you're able-bodied have a look at your local council website for an allotment waiting list. LOTS of councils don't even have a list and you can walk straight onto one and start growing your own food immediately

Two years’ wait here in my part of London. And that’s usually for an overgrown plot that needs clearing of brambles, couch grass and bindweed before you can even get going.

For those that keep making Ukraine war an excuse for the failure or british politicians, supermarket today in Kherson that gets shelled and is in the active war zone:

☹️ yeah it's a real lottery. It's a sin that plots are allowed to go to bramble when there are people waiting 2 years.

Yeah I know it can be nearly impossible to get one, but you don't know until you try.

I waited 4 years for mine, but my friend who lives in the town next to me was always saying how she'd love one too but never actually checked to see if some were available, she called and by the next week she had her pick of 5 different plots.

It's not going to solve food shortages but having a bit of growing space does give you a little bit of peace of mind.

@NewIdeasToday Exactly. I agree that in some parts of Morocco and Spain part of the harvest has been compromised by frost and storm, but there still is enough produce to go around. In Europe, the European Union. There are agreements between the European countries to provide each-other with the necessary and at an agreed price. The UK wanted out, so the UK doesn't get the same conditions. It's called Brexit. On top of that there is an energy crisis so the heating of greenhouses and the transport of produce became extremely expensive. And then there's the birdflue, and the UK can't count on neighbouring countries to help out and send (cheap) eggs. These times are difficult for everyone, but Brexitania stands alone, whereas in Europe every country helps its neighbours.

It's only the supermarkets that are short, the garden centre I went to looked similar to that photo just above for vegetables.

Well I've been trying to order eggs and red peppers in my weekly food shop (Tesco) for the last few weeks and every time they've been unavailable. I will keep trying.

Why do people think it’s just in the U.K.? Such an island mentality 😁😉

for example: www.metronieuws.nl/in-het-nieuws/binnenland/2023/02/groenten-dure-tomaten-schappen-groente-supermarkt/

from the Dutch news, and they grow almost all the salad veg for Europe

shortages in Holland too. And no Dutchit to blame

This German report discusses shortages & also the inhumane conditions suffered by workers on Spanish farms

www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/lieferketten-tomaten-spanien-arbeitsbedingungen-101.html

Just go to a shop!

They have a low bar.

I get it’s inconvenient but I do think the whole UK mindset of expecting all food, especially fruit and veg, to be always available at supermarkets and always at the same price, needs to shift. There’s no harm in the supermarket shelves reflecting current supply and demand. We need to eat more seasonally with all the supply issues and climate change. I’ve just moved temporarily from the UK and where we live now it’s really common not to have certain perishable items in the shops for a week or more. No one minds, they just buy something else.

This

Several supermarkets near me and it's really hard to find eggs at the moment in any of them even with an actual physical visit.

Yeah who needs variety and choice. It’s oh so virtuous to just live with war time standards. Really, you only need calories to live, so let’s just issue ration cards.

This kind of nonsense is usually spouted by the privilege. Those who can’t undertake why the plebs should have their standard of living raised by being able to afford a variety of food all year round.

Really, you only need calories to live, so let’s just issue ration cards.
Argh, don't go giving them ideas 😳😬😂

Exactly this living standards should have progressed since WW2 any thoughts of shut up n put up should be binned. Brexit the unmitigated disaster but people believed all that xenophobic crap about Johnny forriner taking our jobs etc.

Remainers warned again and again what would happen but millions for various reasons wanted to send a big fuck you message to the establishment and here we are. Has the whiff of a dirty protest in the H blocks for those that remember the 70s and 80s. Putin et al got a great return from those troll farms operating out of St Petersburg without a shot being fired.

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Forage,Cameron,Johnson 3 guilty men who in a civilised country would be in jail for high treason.

Those 3 would be a horrendous shag,marry,kill dilemma.

The war mentality has to stop. I for one am totally sick of a hankering towards penury, frugality, acceptance, carrying on, not complaining etc. It is the British way I suppose, but that attitude has us where we are.

This 100%. We need to expect more and demand more of our government. We are not at war, we should not be at the mercy of their relentless poor decision making while they help
line the pockets of their big companies and their cronies. Just looks at the damage Liz Truss inflicted with her disastrous budget, her actions literally wiped a sizeable chunk off people's pensions and caused mortgage rates to rise leaving us all worse off when in an already perilous situation. And what happened people just shrugged it off, joked about a lettuce and carried on. That they are still in government just beggars belief.