Just out of parents night - 11 years new novel is about a boy who wants to be a girl

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And the teacher was talking about it as a great book. I’m seriously not happy. Would I be unreasonable to raise this with the school. Why is this kind of idea even introduced to our children so young. No wonder they are all so confused.

This is going to be a massive problem for the nhs and schools in the future, prob over the next 10 years. I actually think this could be the thing which breaks the nhs.

Taking kids, removing safe guarding, exposing them to inappropriate sexual content, in some cases hiding pertinent facts from parents, indoctrination of ideologies (and people kick off about Cof E primary schools!). Medicalising mental health issues, not addressing the actual mental health problem etc. how are schools and the nhs going to cope with the law suits?

So, is this a narrative of dysmorphia which is normalized and celebrated and then packaged up for children and distributed at school? Is the next book in the series about an anorexic girl who reaches her goal weight and everyone cheers her along?

HRTFT - I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned that this book is now called Melissa after the author and publisher were castigated for using George’s ‘deadname’ 🤦‍♀️I wish I were making that up.

There’s something in this whole issue that additionally bothers me; I think it’s that schools/certain teachers/the curriculum are not there for nor supposed to be about being political activists with their own pet agendas (and this is now a political issue of contention).

Parents should be the ones showing bring this issue up when it arises for them, not through persuasive stories at school and we have no clue as to what the teacher is commenting on around this issue as children likely bring up questions.

I sent an email to my dd’s primary saying if they were going to talk about harmful ‘gender identity’ in any context - PSHE or otherwise she was to be excused from those lessons. Body disassociation is not what I want her to be taught. I think schools need to know we are not on board with it.

Children in school are a captive audience.

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At this point one can only assume they will be creators of their own demise. Once that’s happened I’ll be happy to buy into the deadman’s ideology and never mention this stuff again except with its new name of mental illness as it’s neatly slotted back into DSM5 under the many categories already in there which perfectly describes this situation

This.

Exactly, as we’ve seen, the minute a journalist is brave enough to ask some actual questions - (eg. Nicola Sturgeon’s uncharacteristic stumbling over whether double rapist Isla Bryson is a man or not) to see the whole argument crumble.

This is why Stonewall stated that they want to target children from age 2 upwards - they are still learning about the world and believe what trusted adults tell them - however illogical.

They will also pick up on the special ‘vibe’ that proponents of gender ideology seem to give off - that questioning is heresy and must not be done.

Unfortunately, journalists have had their hands tied on this by Stonewall dictated guidelines and rigorous enforcement of them by the trans activists. More than one journalist has lost their job over this.

This is exactly why we need to fight to keep this regimes ideological propaganda and its proponents out of schools. Children are hardwired to please adults - this is why stonewall want to break down safety gateways. The question is though why the preoccupation with getting the trust of young children, ostracising them from non- compliant adults.

why don’t they wait until people are adults so can decide for themselves? Are they no longer suitable targets then?

it’s non-sensical in the context the reasoning given

why are there (rightly) campaigns and systems in place to stop FGm abroad yet schools are actively encouraging genital mutilation in this country?

Actually let’s explore that concept shall we. For all the supporters of Gender Ideology let’s try this.

An 8 year old girl who has been abused goes to speak to her teacher. She’s read about a religion in say Africa whereby because girls shouldn’t experience sexual pleasure to keep them pure and safe they do a little operation that would stop her feeling pain (or anything) when her uncle rapes her. She’s read all about it on the internet (having learned to hide her search history from some helpful people on those websites), she has a script to read to the teacher from those nice people on the internet inc the ultimate threat of suicide she’s read a nice story about a girl in her position and how everyone thinks she’s so brave and beautiful going off to Africa to keep herself pure like all good girls should - now she’s not tarnished with those sexual urges that really only boys should have). Would you expect:

a- the school to fund the child’s trip to Africa and cost of surgery (pref with an assembly telling the school how brave and beautiful she is)

b- explore some of the issues with the child in secret and invite people who run those websites into the school to speak with the girl

c- “ discuss” it generally in class with guidance only from the owners of those websites ideally reading to book about the Brave Beautiful girl going off to Africa - the children are reminded speaking up against this is literal violence and a hate crime

d. Inform the police, social services and parents, get the uncle arrested and ensure the child has full access to psychiatric services?

So Gender Ideologists - you decide!

An excellent point.

As I understand from women’s accounts, FGM is actually ‘sold’ to young girls as a positive step in their lives and they are given a new dress and a party before they are held down and cut, often with a dirty knife. Many women still welcome it for their daughters and see it as a necessary process.

As an aside to that, bizarrely, many police forces regard breast binding as a serious child protection issue except when it is done in the name of transgender. Several organisations including the children’s charity currently under investigation for serious safeguarding fails, Mermaids and soap seller Lush are known to have sent out breast binders to children without their parent’s knowledge. There is no difference in the resulting damage to breast tissue between that which is practised in African cultures and that for trans.

In another bizarre but sadly unsurprising twist, a prominent anti FGM campaigner has received huge abuse and attempts to shut her down with accusations of transphobia. This is because she campaigns against FGM which happens to girls. Even worse, anti FGM law was voted down in some US states because it would have prevented trans surgeries being performed in children.

Yes that’s right, they refused to protect actual girls undergoing FGM because they wanted to be able to perform trans genital surgery on children (the thing they say they never do).

George is a terrible book.

It is about a boy who wants to be a girl, yes, but it's written as a character who is really a girl who everyone thinks is a boy, just because she has a boys body.

Propaganda.

I mean this is hugely shocking - it is a human rights issue. It appears another case of transrights over riding women’s rights.

it’s interesting that China banned foot binding (another way in which women’s bodies were mutilated) in 1912. It seems in this area even China has a better record on Female human rights than the West.

Yes these mutilations and rejections of the true female form are often accepted by coerced women. We therefore need to stop the abusive practice of coercion too.

it’s a story as old as time- get women to agree to their slavery

Let's stop teaching things to children all together, shall we?

Did your foot hurt as you stomped it?

I'm all for educating children, less keen on indoctrination with harmful
ideologies

11 is old enough to know that trans people exist.

It's not knowing trans people exist that's the problem. It's being told that being a woman or man is a "feeling in your head" rather than a biological reality. It's being told that if you like the "wrong" things, or display the "wrong" personality traits (or fancy the "wrong" people) that you may actually be in the wrong body. It's being told that actually yes, you can change sex and that this will solve your dislike of your own body and the changes to it puberty is bringing.

Boys used to be castrated so they could retain their soprano voices. That was their choice (at age 9 or so). Ridiculous that it’s now banned and we no longer have those beautiful voices to listen to and a boy with a beautiful voice is prevented from having this world-class career.

"harmful ideologies"

HHAAHAHAHHA FUCKING HELL

When my son was 8, he was sat there while me and my husband had a quick discussion how to address an envelope to a newly transitioned relative. "Should it be Mrs & Mrs? Or shall we just use first names & surname?"

Son: "Is x trans then?"
Me: "Yes"
Son: "Oh, ok" and carried on doing what ever he was doing.

They know it exists. It doesn't bother or upset them. The same as friends having same sex parents just doesn't bother them.

i don’t see what the issue is. It is not going to “introduce ideas”, it is not going to “make” anyone trans. Or gay.
you either are, or are not.
it May be that the book doesn’t speak to the majority of the kids, but it can be used to teach about empathy, being different etc.

Ah so you think an ideology which divides families is not harmful?

an ideology which takes away women’s voices is not harmful

an ideology that pushes unnecessary medical treatments with unascertained long term effects of that particular demographic is not harmful?

an ideology reliant of stereotypes of men and women is not harmful?

An ideology which wants to rewrite languages to suit their ideology rather than reality is not harmful?

an ideology that calls people bigots for staring who they do and don’t find attractive and coerces them into having sex with people they don’t want to is not harmful?

An ideology which means a rapists feelings are put a head of the rape victim is not harmful?

Removing safeguarding gateways to children is not harmful?

Enabling rapists to access women’s safe spaces is not harmful?

Excluding women from medical procedures is not harmful?

letting men into domestic violence and rape centres which are supposed to be protected as single sex is not harmful?

making female prisoners endure make prisoners (who drastically have about 3x the sexual offending history of the general prison population) is not harmful

Glad you find it funny - because women don’t.

I don’t understand this line of thinking. “Either you are or you’re not”.

How do you know that you are ‘in the wrong body’? What does that even mean? How does a child ‘know’? How do they know, as a child, that it is the right thing to do to start the process of transitioning? How do we know they won’t change their mind when it’s too late?

How do we know which man who wants to be a woman is experiencing gender dysphoria, which one is playing out a sexual fetish, which one is manipulating the system like ‘Isla’ Bryson?

We can’t base the education of our children or the laws of this country on feelings. We need to be sticking to facts, evidence and reality.

Also, trans has nothing to do with sexuality, so let’s not draw that comparison.

I can happily accept that my child, or any other child, might be questioning their sexuality or even know they are gay at 11. I’d be happy for my children (or, as an educator, any child) to read a story about a child going through this. That’s progressive. That’s promoting inclusion and equality.

That is in no way comparable to gaslighting and grooming children using seemingly innocent little stories into believing things that aren’t true (you can ‘change sex’) or that are damaging to females (‘boys feelings come before girls progress, privacy, dignity, safety AND feelings’).

First thing you need to do is read the book, OP.

being sarcastic btw

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