Just out of parents night - 11 years new novel is about a boy who wants to be a girl

[Workingmomof2]

And the teacher was talking about it as a great book. I’m seriously not happy. Would I be unreasonable to raise this with the school. Why is this kind of idea even introduced to our children so young. No wonder they are all so confused.

A pertinent question indeed...

Again I’m generally not a prude about reading materials but the books that are available in schools absolutely have to have a different standard than those available for sale or from a public library. Books that are taught or used curriculum have to have an even higher standard.

I think that goes for all books and necessarily the one the OP has mentioned.

So please @Notellinganyone please get the context about those wacky Americans trying to ban books before commenting about it.

It’s a bit like those pesky science threads that insist the earth moves round the sun. Those fucking helio centrics. Can’t the bastards just #bekind

It’s difficult to know what kind of adults would write lines like the following

“She immersed her body in the in the warm water and tried not to think about what was between her legs, but there it was, bobbing in front of her.” “Hey Rick. It looks like someone is finally starting to grow some balls.” “Nothing makes her more uncomfortable than when boys talked about what was in her underpants.” “George had been reading websites about transitioning since Scott taught her how to clear the web browser history on Mom’s computer.” “….what she has between her legs was nobody’s business but hers and her boyfriend.” “Boys are dirty and try to look up our skirt.” “She would do cartwheels leaving her pink underwear showing.” “She lifted her skirt to see her underwear, covered in tiny red hearts, she pulled it down, sat and peed, just like a girl.”

(quotes taken from reviews of the book)

This is deeply disturbing.

Hmmm…seems I got the wrong end of the stick here and thought this was an entirely different book…I don’t know the book but some of the extracts from it admittedly sound a bit much…

I think there are 2 different books being discussed… my fault sorry.

Jeebus, I thought the part about George’s friend giving up her part in the play was bad enough - I didn’t realise there was all that creepy stuff in it too. 11 year old girls really don’t think that way about themselves when they go to the loo. They just don’t.

They've already taught them some terrible inaccuracies about the Equality Act which I've talked through with him and explained why they're wrong - I'm still sitting on whether it's worth firing off an email in objection or a whether it's a pure waste of energy.

@SerafinasGoose absolutely let them know. It's important because either DS took away a misconception and they need to know (perhaps others in the class did as well) or they taught it wrong and they need to know.

“George had been reading websites about transitioning since Scott taught her how to clear the web browser history on Mom’s computer.” *

There. Right there. Big safeguarding issue.

• I understand that this is an extract of the book.

This.

Court cases going on currently about how some poor young people have been mentally and physically damaged by professionals supporting and encouraging hormone therapy and other treatments for children who 'thought' they were born into the wrong sex.

It's very sad and very worrying.

"OMG12 · Today 22:04
It’s difficult to know what kind of adults would write lines like the following
“She immersed her body in the in the warm water and tried not to think about what was between her legs, but there it was, bobbing in front of her.” “Hey Rick. It looks like someone is finally starting to grow some balls.” “Nothing makes her more uncomfortable than when boys talked about what was in her underpants.” “George had been reading websites about transitioning since Scott taught her how to clear the web browser history on Mom’s computer.” “….what she has between her legs was nobody’s business but hers and her boyfriend.” “Boys are dirty and try to look up our skirt.” “She would do cartwheels leaving her pink underwear showing.” “She lifted her skirt to see her underwear, covered in tiny red hearts, she pulled it down, sat and peed, just like a girl.”
(quotes taken from reviews of the book)"

OMG @OMG12 that is not suitable reading for a child. Some posters think this is normal. How?

Poor lady. She should sue. A mental health crisis and she ended up butchered since professionals thought a gender change with surgery would fix the problems she had. They were wrong and it made things worse.

I hope she wins millions.

But your overall view clearly shows that you'd rather your kids never properly learn about trans people ever, so I suppose for you it doesn't exactly matter.

The only thing that book would achieve for my child, would be me teaching my son about Trans people and the current disagreeable Trans agenda much sooner than I would have done otherwise. Teaching from facts of course, not fiction.

I’ve spoken with a friend who teaches in high school and hear all the time about how so and is non-binary and so and so is trans/ gay/pan sexual-literally just being straight is considered’boring’. Teacher says they’ve had enough of it. So the idea a book needs to be read by even younger kids is ridiculous-

Wow! Very loud and clear echoes of Section 28 here.

In what way do you think being a homosexual is akin to believing you’ve been born in the ‘wrong’ body?

Perhaps educate yourself before giving book recommendations.

holocausteducation.org.uk/research/the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas-in-english-secondary-schools/

hcn.org.uk/blog/the-problem-with-the-boy-in-the-striped-pyjamas/

Reading the extracts above makes me think the content isn’t right for that age group (not least for the poor teacher having to manage all the silliness when the children have to read words like balls 😄). But in general terms I don’t mind children reading books about trans people. It all depends on the book itself and how it’s written.

It is a sense, a feeling inside of people that they simply do not belong in the body they have been given. It feels as if the way they truly feel about themselves and who they are does not fit with their biological sex. It is a complex but real feeling, and it is not a mental illness. It is a feeling of complex disease that can't properly be explained unless you truly are trans

What a load of nonsense.

Gender dysphoria IS a mental illness. One that used to be mostly gay males. Gatekeeping was in place to weed out the men with sexual paraphilias.

Teenage girls now using trans identities as a maladpitve coping mechanism to trauma because they've been sold a lie.
The only difference between this and anorexia is a multi billion dollar trans gravy train.
Both are forms of self harm yet one is celebrated and actively encouraged!

What kind of society thinks it's ok for double radical mastectomies to be performed on perfectly healthy breasts of young women and girls and give them overdoses of hormones that will do irreparable damage just to appease poor mental health?

90% of children grow out of their dysphoria when their BRAINS and BODIES mature, so why are they being told the nonsense that gender is anything other than sexist stereotypes.

So many TRA's now claim they don't need dysphoria to be trans. No dysphoria? So that would be a lifestyle choice then.

And what about the grown men with AGP and other paraphilias?
Why are we pretending they are the same as mentally ill teens?

Exactly. Will there be books about a bulimic boy or a girl who has schizophrenia, and their distorted from reality views being validated instead of being given mental health care?

No, obviously the prize winning author of the book thinks this though.

You would think they (their preferred pronoun )/ he (actual pronoun) would know better as part of a group campaigning for men to use womens toilets and chsngibging rooms where they can sit in the cubicle next to an 11 year old having a wee or see them changing in the gym changing rooms.

Ah I see tge “it’s just a story” brigade are out. Stories act as one of the most persuasive types of writing. They get people to identify with chapters, arouse various decision making senses. They are more memorable straight information.
Stories are often used as mechanisms of propaganda. It allows concepts which are made up to be presented (and often accepted) as fact -esp amongst you lng and impressionable children.

Think about every religion and their use of stories. This is no different. It is an instruction manual and a very effective one.

Characters not chapters

Personally I would like some investigative journalists to start doing some digging around way such a tiny tiny amount of people have such a hold over politicians and the media. It lacks logic. I don’t, for one minute, think it has anything to do with #bekind (although that’s the propaganda tool being used to spread it through the masses)