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Just out of parents night - 11 years new novel is about a boy who wants to be a girl

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Workingmomof2 · 22/02/2023 17:54

And the teacher was talking about it as a great book. I’m seriously not happy. Would I be unreasonable to raise this with the school. Why is this kind of idea even introduced to our children so young. No wonder they are all so confused.

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twitterexile · 22/02/2023 20:14

OMG12 · 22/02/2023 20:06

ssh don’t mention the middle aged transitioners in their fishnets and stilettos not getting and my sexual gratification from it at all. Nothing to see here, move a long.

im so hoping John Cleese in the new Fawlty Towers does a retake on the Dont mention the War sketch” with “Dint mention the penis sketch”

Yes it's all a bit awkward when you get on to those particular men isn't it? Trans 'kids' have to exist so that these characters can pretend it's a genuine 'thing' when they transition in to their true selves in their fifties after a successful career, marriage and kids.

Nivid · 22/02/2023 20:15

The idea that a book causes trans adolescents doesnt have any evidence to it whatsoever. What part in my post dont you agree with?

Suuudohnym · 22/02/2023 20:15

This does remind me of the parents at school who got their knickers in a twist when our school had “equality day” and they clearly were worried that the mere mention of gay people would “turn” their kids gay…

twitterexile · 22/02/2023 20:16

bellac11 · 22/02/2023 20:08

Ive said it before, so this is boring, but men pretending to be women never want to look like/identify with a woman like me. Lots of facial hair, fat, swollen ankles, ruddy faced, menopausal.

Funny that.

Equally they never seem to want to do the childcare or the caring for elderly relatives or the cleaning - that's for frumpy old bio women. Their 'girlhood' (for they are always 'girls' ) is a permanent party of pink silk pyjamas and pillow fights laced with pamper sessions and sleepovers.

twitterexile · 22/02/2023 20:17

Suuudohnym · 22/02/2023 20:15

This does remind me of the parents at school who got their knickers in a twist when our school had “equality day” and they clearly were worried that the mere mention of gay people would “turn” their kids gay…

Then you perhaps need to educate yourself as they say.

thirteenfiftyeight · 22/02/2023 20:19

Just three hours ago.

I won't apologise for the Mail link, they're good at reporting these issues

Just out of parents night - 11 years new novel is about a boy who wants to be a girl
FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:20

Whoever told me to rtft, i really don’t need to, any thread related to anything trans on here is the same every time.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/02/2023 20:20

It’s the TRA who have redefined same sex attraction to be same gender attraction and are fully behind TW ‘lesbians’ badgering actual lesbians to sleep with them

but yeah we’re the homophobic ones 🙄

SerafinasGoose · 22/02/2023 20:22

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They do. And they're not 'abnormal'. When it boils down to it, who really is entirely normal, and what does normal mean, anyway?

But these days there's no mutual exclusivity between dysphoria and transgender. There are other factors it's vital to consider: the correlation between young girls, ASD and transgenderism being one. Another is the devastating Cass Review of the frighteningly inadequate, frankly dangerous practices being operated by the Tavistock, and a growing (and alarming) trend toward medicalization as a first resort, and with no follow-on care or monitoring of the medium-term wellbeing of those patients. As for Mermaids, anyone with a genuine concern for young trans people would be rightly horrified by some of their rhetoric, not to mention the way they operate and the known predilections of one of their trustees.

The whole thing is a can of worms and to accept it uncritically is, IMO, to do young people a grave disservice. To this end my Y6 child knows that sometimes people choose to present as a different gender, and they should be free to do so and don't deserve to be discriminated against. They would, however, still be the same sex they always were; yes, that would still be true even if sex isn't as straightforward as it seems (albeit straightforward enough for homosapiens to have survived for 200,000 years). Sex is not 'assigned at birth'. Humans cannot change sex.

DC knows these are basic rights to which every human being should be entitled, but is too young to understand the complex issues surrounding what happens when the rights of two groups conflict.

There's also a false dawn (to my mind, a cruel one) in assuring a young person with complex problems that they'll suddenly find happiness and a miraculous solution to those problems by transitioning. To transition is not to guarantee happiness. The testimony of a growing number of detransitioners bears witness. to this

thirteenfiftyeight · 22/02/2023 20:22

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:20

Whoever told me to rtft, i really don’t need to, any thread related to anything trans on here is the same every time.

Logic and common sense does tend to stay consistent

BetterArf · 22/02/2023 20:24

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:20

Whoever told me to rtft, i really don’t need to, any thread related to anything trans on here is the same every time.

Well then either comment constructively or scroll on past.

Suuudohnym · 22/02/2023 20:25

@twitterexile how so? It doesn’t mean I’m for men thinking that donning lipstick and heels makes them a woman. Far, far from it.

Eyerollcentral · 22/02/2023 20:26

Suuudohnym · 22/02/2023 20:15

This does remind me of the parents at school who got their knickers in a twist when our school had “equality day” and they clearly were worried that the mere mention of gay people would “turn” their kids gay…

How does it remind you of that? What are the similarities? Do you think this book sounds appropriate? Why?

HairyPooter · 22/02/2023 20:27

Im an English teacher and someone who got this book thrown out of my child’s classroom when she was ten. Let’s be clear: there are still copies in the school library. But I went into the Head because a class reader is different; children read all sorts of books but a class reader should not be a politicised or controversial novel as this one is.

I went to the head with this information: the book contains references to searching for porn and how to medically transition on the internet. The book contains a very destabilising for young people that to want to play a role as a girl and wear a dress means you are a girl (incredibly sexist for girls as well as boys). Schools are bound by law not to introduce politically controversial ideas - and heads, whatever side they are on on this issue are wholly aware it’s controversial.

the head did one minute of online research before I’d even got to say any of this, and pulled the book.

Thank you @NowtSalamander. I'm glad there are teachers and heads who know what's what.

StClare101 · 22/02/2023 20:28

It’s a terrible message that reinforces gender stereotypes, when difference should be celebrated.

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:28

@BetterArf erm…no. I will treat these threads with the contempt with which I personally feel they deserve.

HairyPooter · 22/02/2023 20:29

Sorry. It was meant to be in bold.

Justforlaffs · 22/02/2023 20:29

If the local high school has a lot of trans people its

You should be asking yourself WHY the local high school suddenly has lots of trans people.

WHY has this exploded in recent years? Maybe it’s partly to do with pushing crap like this on impressionable 10-11 yo’s and feeding them the lie that they can change sex if they “feel” they’re trapped in the wrong body.

There seem to be some incredibly naive people on here.

Eyerollcentral · 22/02/2023 20:29

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:28

@BetterArf erm…no. I will treat these threads with the contempt with which I personally feel they deserve.

Open minded then

WhereAreMyAirpods · 22/02/2023 20:30

Workingmomof2 · 22/02/2023 18:06

Primary 7 so not High school. The book is called George.

Scotland then.

Where Isla Bryson is a woman. Say no more.

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:30

Very open minded, thank you.

thirteenfiftyeight · 22/02/2023 20:31

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:28

@BetterArf erm…no. I will treat these threads with the contempt with which I personally feel they deserve.

But you've not read it?

Weird.

thirteenfiftyeight · 22/02/2023 20:32

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:30

Very open minded, thank you.

You don't sound it. At all.

BetterArf · 22/02/2023 20:34

How childish.

FontSnob · 22/02/2023 20:35

You managed to deduce that about me from three short lines of text. Amazing.

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