to be sick of hearing the 'CLASS' card played on mn?

[mumzyof2]

Is it just me? Or is anyone else sick of hearing the class divide thing mentioned on here?
As soon as someone mentions disciplining children, supermarkets , etc, it turns into a big class debate!

Why?

Why, in this day and age, when there is such a MASSIVE range of people no living in the UK, do we still give a flying toot about peoples class?

Threads like this are while I still feel like a forriner after 20 years!

For me the fascinating thing (looking in on all this from the outside as it were) is that in many other western countries it's as described by Needmorecoffee in one of the earlier posts - how wealthy/poor you are (or are perceived to be because of your belongings...) but it's sooo much more in England....

For some reason, despite reiterating my point tediously again and again yesterday, I didn't seem to get across what I was saying.

99th attempt: No class is not about money, but as has been conceded, lots (perhaps a critical mass?) of society do equate class and classiness with income and therefore it becomes about money regardless of the true concept of class.

It is not just money in other countries. As I said above for many many millions it is caste in India and also in other areas your tribe or background even if you go to Iran/Iraq areas. It's often genetics in those areas. In some regions you get Chinese at the top and the locals at the bottom too.

It is not all about money in the UK and you can be fairly upper class and poor too. Class is a very mixed thing with a number of factors in it. Accent is one aspect but people can change their accent and people do move class.

I know, that's why I said western countries

Okay, yes but my borough is 18% hindu so all that caste stuff, never mind all the Saudis and many other groups in London is imported over here anyway. I forget so much of the UK is virtually all white British C of E/atheist.

people who equate money with classiness imo lack class

(that's because i'm penniless)

Call me cynical but I doubt there are many poor upper class or even upper middle class people in Britain. When I say poor by the way, I mean poor.

Yes "nouveau"

I used to be able to spell

well, it is as unearthly collection of vowels...

Occasionally you read about them. People who end up sleeping on park benches (like that alcoholic ex newsreader). They become anonymous so you don't see them. They drift into the invisibility of poverty. Usually it's because they have other problems like mental health issues too or the family just won't help them because of their drug habit or there's a divocre an the family changes class - the children go to rough schools, lose their accents and then in a generation they have moved to the working class.

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You're completely right

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The same people going on at you for sending your kid to an independent school will probably shop at waitrose and go to mass to ensure a place at the local RC school. Mahooosive generalisation. Just wanted to be provocative

I'm not in a position to take the piss alittleone2