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There is no way the government can let these next lot of nurses strikes go ahead

127 replies

fissty · 16/02/2023 19:52

They are going to have to back down.

During the last lot of strikes we put forward certain cases for derogation (ie cases we wanted excluded from strike actions and staffed) ie emergency operating lists which always run 24/7, big complex surgeries (I put one forward for a complex case involving 6 consultants which had been 3 months in the planning and it was refused). The only thing we had running was one emergency theatre which had life and limb cases only on the day (so nothing pre booked). All cancer, all paeds, all other cases cancelled.

now the RCN are coming out saying they are going to be stricter with what they allow to run this time, the government are going to have to back down. How can they not?? It was literally life or limb last time!

I support the strikes, I went out on the picket with them last time, surely the government are going to have to capitulate now?

OP posts:
MissyB1 · 16/02/2023 19:57

I really bloody hope the Government listen up now and take their responsibilities seriously. They need to get around the table and talk pay!!
I don't blame the nurses, they didn’t cause the staffing crisis in the NHS. They are right make it clear that pay is directly related to the crisis.

JammyDodgerrr · 16/02/2023 20:00

Like PP I don't blame the NHS nurses at all, they work their bloody socks off and deserve more pay but agree the government need to pull their fingers out and do something asap.

Ilikewinter · 16/02/2023 20:12

I just cant see the government backing down. If they agree say 10% , will they do this for the whole NHS ..... if so then what about teachers and the rest of the civil service staff who are striking?.
Inflation is starting to drop so surely the longer the government waits the lower inflation will drop, then they will be able to put forward a lower pay rise offer.

LakieLady · 16/02/2023 20:17

I agree with you, OP, but I think this government doesn't care if people suffer or even die.

They'd just spin it by trying to blame it on militant lefty nurses.

MrsHamlet · 16/02/2023 20:23

LakieLady · 16/02/2023 20:17

I agree with you, OP, but I think this government doesn't care if people suffer or even die.

They'd just spin it by trying to blame it on militant lefty nurses.

This. They have no skin in the game and they couldn't care less about the public.

Sirzy · 16/02/2023 20:24

The goverment are keeping their heads buried in the sand. They will blame the front line workers for issues which arise without taking any responsibility for the fact their years of neglect have led to such desperate measures being needed

DrMarciaFieldstone · 16/02/2023 20:26

I don’t think they will. To be honest, strikes aren’t even making headlines now.

I don’t see them backing down for one industry as they’d need
to meet the conditions for them all.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 16/02/2023 20:30

They know they are screwed at the next GE anyway so I can't see them backing down. It's a race to destroy the NHS before they lose power.

Botw1 · 16/02/2023 20:40

Nah.

They don't give a shit.

Have you seen the actual state of the NHS?

Pureradio · 16/02/2023 20:41

I agree that the word strikes doesn't even make me look up now. It's awful I know.

antipodeancanary · 16/02/2023 20:42

The government won't back down.

noblegiraffe · 16/02/2023 20:43

I'm not sure they're actually capable of negotiating a deal.

MarshaBradyo · 16/02/2023 20:45

DrMarciaFieldstone · 16/02/2023 20:26

I don’t think they will. To be honest, strikes aren’t even making headlines now.

I don’t see them backing down for one industry as they’d need
to meet the conditions for them all.

I don’t think they will either, and agree re the headlines

RafaistheKingofClay · 16/02/2023 20:49

I think you may be assuming they have some sort of moral compass. I doubt they give a damn about people dying. They haven’t been bothered about it so far.

LlynTegid · 16/02/2023 20:53

The government seem to see the issues as if they are the equivalent of the miners strike in the 1980s. Even though they are not now led by the man who said 'let the bodies pile high' any more.

I don't see the government backing down in any meaningful way, at least not unless there is a really bad set of May local elections for them.

ssd · 16/02/2023 20:55

The government dont care, they will have private health care and these strikes wont touch them.

And we all know it.

stonedaisy · 16/02/2023 20:57

We should all be marching in the streets of London with our children for this cause.. round and around the houses of parliament, in shifts, day and night, non stop until a fair agreement is reached.

Versailles2023 · 16/02/2023 21:02

@ssd they all have private healthcare and get backhanders from the vultures slowly being allowed to privatize the NHS. They have no natal compass only a money grabbing greed compass.

Versailles2023 · 16/02/2023 21:03

Moral not natal!

ilovesooty · 16/02/2023 21:06

I doubt they have any interest in negotiating a deal.

Calistan · 16/02/2023 21:06

When will people get it through their thick heads that they don't give a fuck.

Seriously, has nobody frigging noticed.

soboredtonight · 16/02/2023 21:07

They will let the strikes go ahead.

soboredtonight · 16/02/2023 21:08

We will see riots in the next couple of years. Cost of living. Gas and elec. etc etc. people are at breaking point.

sashagabadon · 16/02/2023 21:10

I can’t see the government backing down. I think the nurses will have to negotiate.
most of the strikes have been damp squibs tbh.

Calistan · 16/02/2023 21:10

soboredtonight · 16/02/2023 21:08

We will see riots in the next couple of years. Cost of living. Gas and elec. etc etc. people are at breaking point.

Are you going to riot? Stop expecting other people to stand up when you are not willing to.

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