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could i ask a known youtuber living in the neighborhood to stop filming in a playground

104 replies

J417 · 01/02/2023 15:01

could I ask a known youtuber living in the neighborhood to stop filming in a playground full of kids running around
what are my rights?
J

OP posts:
TulipCat · 01/02/2023 16:39

Gosh it's a pity you have got so clumsy with your coat recently, it seems to keep dropping in front of the camera. I guess that's one of the problems in making money filming in public places. Sure, you're allowed to film but there is no accounting for how clumsy the general public can be......

mumda · 01/02/2023 16:41

Can you subject access request from them a copy of your personal data he has?
(ie: Your face)

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/02/2023 16:42

OP's buggered off so this may be a wind up.

Redbone · 01/02/2023 16:46

In a school playground definitely not allowed and in a council run playground it possibly could be allowed. Personally i would shout Nonce, Nonce very loudly and start pointing too. I wish that the OP would come back and clarify a few things.

Patineur · 01/02/2023 16:47

Skippink12 · 01/02/2023 15:05

I would personally speak to the school about your concern. I know at my children’s school you are not allowed to film or take pictures inside the school but not sure where you stand with it being on the playground.

What school?

Patineur · 01/02/2023 16:47

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 01/02/2023 15:07

Shout Nonce Nonce and point at him.

I'd imagine that would deter him

How do you know it's a "him"?

SleepingStandingUp · 01/02/2023 16:54

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 01/02/2023 15:17

Give over.

Male or female it will work.

The point isn't itf it stops the filming, it's that it's an incitement to violence.

Bob if filming pigeons at the park. Kids are barely in focus, not identifiable but Ann starts screaming Nonce.
Bob tries to explain but Ann carries on screaming.
Jack runs over, sees the camera and hears Ann, grabs the camera and smashes Bon in the face.
Steve runs over, Jesus Jack what the fuck?
He's a bloody Nonce mate, been filming Ann's kids.

He's filming Ann's kids? My kid plays with her kids. I bet he's filmed them too.
Steve starts kicking Bob in the runs.

Police turn up.
What happened?. Steve and Jack explain Ann knows he's a Nonce and was filming the kids.
It all happened so quickly Ann didn't know how to stop it but admits he posts pigeon videos on YouTube all the time

How culpable is Ann in Steve and Jack's crime?

veronicaaa · 01/02/2023 16:54

Is this youtuber living in the southfields/wimbledon area by any chance... if so i will be following with interest...🍿

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:03

MrsJamin · 01/02/2023 15:04

You absolutely should point it out that none of the children's parents have consent. Really annoys me when you see footage of lots of kids eg at a playground, party or performance and you just know they didn't get parents permission.

Completely and utterly irrelevant, as long as he is not recording sound he is free to do as he please, no laws regarding this unless you think he is a danger to the kids

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:04

J417 · 01/02/2023 15:01

could I ask a known youtuber living in the neighborhood to stop filming in a playground full of kids running around
what are my rights?
J

You have no rights, its is perfectly legal to take photos anywhere in a public area, as long as no sound is being recorded. Not sure why you think you have rights to dictate what the public do in a public place. If you don't like it take yer kids home

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:06

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 01/02/2023 15:07

Shout Nonce Nonce and point at him.

I'd imagine that would deter him

What a ridiculous and disgusting thing to say, if someone was stupid enough to take your advice they coudl tarnish a person for the rest of their lives. Just imagine it was your kdi someone was saying such vile abd disgusting things to. The guy is doing nothing wrong

WinnieFosterReads · 01/02/2023 17:07

He doesn't need consent to film in a public place and you don't have rights to your image.
However, an adult regularly filming young children and putting their images online could raise other safeguarding concerns. You could ask the local police for advice - focusing on the distribution of material that includes children rather than the public filming angle.

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:09

nonevernotever · 01/02/2023 15:07

filmlondon.org.uk/resource/filming-people this seems to set out some of the law in England and Wales. Not sure if Scotland is different. That says that the bar is set much higher where children are concerned. Is this a school playground ,( in which case I'd argue it's not a public place and the school can require them to stop) or a park?

Yet above link to coppers website says its completely legal, as it is on Scotland too as I had a guy following me each morning when I walked the dog taking photos and cops said it was perfectly legal, I said my dog is pure breed ans there was a spat of dogs being stolen and that's the only thing they were interested in.

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:11

2bazookas · 01/02/2023 15:34

I'd ask the local police to stop the local youtuber filming kids in the playground .

They won't do a thing as it perfectly legal, imagine thinking ya have a right to donate how someone else behaves in a public place, wow so many precious people on here

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:17

hydriotaphia · 01/02/2023 16:11

Assuming this is a playground in a public park in England or Wales, I would contact the council which owns the land and runs the park/playground. Most parks have bylaws which enable councils to prevent anti-social behaviour. If you present this to the council as a safeguarding issue (which it is) and are able to identify the individual involved/provide proof on YouTube then the council may step in.

What have you been smoking????????? Taking pictures in a public place is no way anti social behaviour, if she does that I hope he sues her for maliciously putting in a bogus complaint and emotional distress. Seriously some folk need to give themselves a wobble

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:20

Tiredalwaystired · 01/02/2023 16:24

When I was a kid this would have mostly led to excited kids going “oooh in on the telly!” If they were in a background of a shot.

is this any different to being in the background of a news report? Or even in the background of someone’s holiday snap?

is the You Tuber a person of concern? Or innocently filming outdoors?

We totally used to do this, standing in the background of the local news waving shouting hi Mom 🤣🤣🤣🤣 think my boy would be delighted if he was YouTube

Nightynightnight · 01/02/2023 17:26

SleepyRich · 01/02/2023 15:23

It's a bit of a weird thing to be worried about isn't it? I mean if you or your children were obviously the main focus that would likely be odd, but if they're just in the background.... Even if you or the children were the main focus/they were a 'candid photographer' so to speak then this would still be lawful in most instances.

Well not really. The Op may have perfectly good reasons for not wanting her children's whereabouts on social media. They may be adopted, they may be fostered, they may be living away from an abuser, they just not want random strangers to know that they use that park. Just because something is lawful, it doesn't mean it is ethical.

Mari9999 · 01/02/2023 17:37

You can always call your focal police and inquire about any possible laws that are being broken. You might also ask if they would be willing to check the guy out.

Chances are that no laws are being broken, but it won't hurt to ask. I am always amazed at the number of parents who constantly post pictures if their children on social media sites. They have absolutely no idea how those images may be used by skillful people with predatory intent.

WinnieFosterReads · 01/02/2023 17:37

CrazyLadie · 01/02/2023 17:17

What have you been smoking????????? Taking pictures in a public place is no way anti social behaviour, if she does that I hope he sues her for maliciously putting in a bogus complaint and emotional distress. Seriously some folk need to give themselves a wobble

Isn't it odd that you're so concerned about the Youtuber's emotional distress but don't give a toss about the OP's? I wonder why that could be. It's a mystery Hmm

FancyFanny · 01/02/2023 17:44

You can't stop people taking photos or videos in public places! I bet most of you have done it yourselves. I have:
I videoed Chinese New Year Celebrations last week- There were people everywhere, including children who will be in the film. I put it on facebook!

Redebs · 01/02/2023 17:46

If he puts it on YouTube, you can request it be taken down if it contains children without consent

WiddlinDiddlin · 01/02/2023 17:58

Nightynightnight · 01/02/2023 17:26

Well not really. The Op may have perfectly good reasons for not wanting her children's whereabouts on social media. They may be adopted, they may be fostered, they may be living away from an abuser, they just not want random strangers to know that they use that park. Just because something is lawful, it doesn't mean it is ethical.

If the OP has a reason like their child is adopted or fostered or something, then it's very much their responsibility not to put the child in a position where they may be filmed/photographed in public.

So don't go to that park or if you see that the person filming is there, go somewhere else.

The onus is not on the filmer/photographer to check that anyone who might appear in a background shot is safe to do so, that's ridiculous - you, the parent, know if there is an issue like this and its your responsibility to mitigate that risk!

Appleass · 01/02/2023 18:21

Public place, anyone can film and be filmed

tillytoodles1 · 01/02/2023 18:21

It's the same on the beach. People quite often let little ones run around naked, and I have taken photos with lots of unknown children in the background.

PicaK · 01/02/2023 18:28

No. They can't sell your image for a profit though.

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