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To think this IS racist META?

70 replies

Pollyperch · 31/01/2023 23:58

Local paper FB group. Story about longstanding popular Chinese takeaway closing down.

Lots of nice messages but one says "at least the last few Local cats and dogs can relax".

I reported to FB / META as racist. I received a response saying the comment did not breach their community standards and I should hide the commentator if I was offended. I appealed this decision but same response. I can no longer view this comment.

AIBU to think META are wrong and this is racist?

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Ncgirlseriously · 01/02/2023 10:15

It’s obviously racist.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/02/2023 10:15

You might want to look at the Yulin Dog Meat Festival - or maybe don't.

purpledalmation · 01/02/2023 10:19

Complain to the page moderator.

EzzieM · 01/02/2023 10:21

Either META don’t care or didn’t understand the dogs comment.

It’s so arbitrary! I know someone who got a 24 hr Facebook ban for racism for posting “Those crazy Russians!” She’s Russian.

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 10:21

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/02/2023 10:15

You might want to look at the Yulin Dog Meat Festival - or maybe don't.

What a ridiculous comment. You can’t tar an entire race with the same brush. It’s like saying all England football fans are white bald headed thugs

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/02/2023 12:38

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 10:21

What a ridiculous comment. You can’t tar an entire race with the same brush. It’s like saying all England football fans are white bald headed thugs

Erm, I didn't.

tommika · 01/02/2023 12:50

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/02/2023 10:15

You might want to look at the Yulin Dog Meat Festival - or maybe don't.

It’s a fact that in China many things are eaten, including dog
As also mentioned in a recent post in France horse meat is eaten

These have historic origins and different cultures have different norms

But these being facts does not separate from a cultural stereotype (dog is eaten by some in China) and the racially motivated ‘joke’ that a Chinese takeaway in the UK would have been secretly capturing and cooking dogs & cats

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 12:52

tommika · 01/02/2023 12:50

It’s a fact that in China many things are eaten, including dog
As also mentioned in a recent post in France horse meat is eaten

These have historic origins and different cultures have different norms

But these being facts does not separate from a cultural stereotype (dog is eaten by some in China) and the racially motivated ‘joke’ that a Chinese takeaway in the UK would have been secretly capturing and cooking dogs & cats

Completely agree. There was no reason for adding in that fact.

Megifer · 01/02/2023 13:08

Definitely racist.

However, 2 takeaways local to me, owned by the same family, were closed down a few years ago after they were found to be serving cat meat 😱 I'd had a questionable looking and textured/tasting meat from one of them and had stopped going there and put it out of my mind until I saw the reports 😬

plumduck · 01/02/2023 13:17

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 01/02/2023 10:15

You might want to look at the Yulin Dog Meat Festival - or maybe don't.

And what has that got to do with Chinese takeaway?

tommika · 01/02/2023 13:25

As a slight drift along with eating habits in cultural norms / stereotyping and individuals:

I come from an island family, in a world travelling / sea faring / exploring community and our family tree is traced back to another country with another historic trend of world travelling / sea faring / exploring culture

Fish feature strongly in their diets

Culturally & stereotypically I should eat fish
If you were to hear a little knowledge about me and were putting together a meal, you’ll probably think of a nice fish

But in my childhood I was overcome in a fish market and was sick
I don’t eat fish, hate the smell of fish, dislike the taste of fish and still get queasy in fish aisle or on the market
All because of one childhood memory

MaybeSmaller · 01/02/2023 13:50

It's a tired old joke and yes it could be regarded as racist.

However, people who want and expect giant global corporations to police everyday banter, that some may see as "offensive", need to be careful what they wish for.

CrazyCorgi · 01/02/2023 13:53

Not racist at all. Would it be racist to joke that a fish and chip shop might be using a rat instead of a piece of cod? You’re being ridiculous.

MasterBeth · 01/02/2023 14:19

Yes, it's racist.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/02/2023 14:41

But these being facts does not separate from a cultural stereotype (dog is eaten by some in China) and the racially motivated ‘joke’ that a Chinese takeaway in the UK would have been secretly capturing and cooking dogs & cats

This. I know people eat dog, monkey, other things I wouldn't in other countries. I know because I've been there and seen it. It's a cultural difference. We eat pig, which is pretty reprehensible on many levels to many people.

That has no bearing on a joke that a takeaway in Britain is kidnapping family pets. THAT'S the racist bit.

Neededanewuserhandle · 01/02/2023 14:43

YABU to expect META to give a fuck - they don't.

Pollyperch · 01/02/2023 20:13

Neededanewuserhandle · 01/02/2023 14:43

YABU to expect META to give a fuck - they don't.

Ha!!! I have certainly learnt that from this thread but thanks to PP for the tips on how to report in the future.

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neilyoungismyhero · 28/07/2023 00:14

itswednesdayy · 01/02/2023 00:22

i watched a documentary which covered facebook’s content moderation. I wouldn’t be surprised if you received an automated response. I imagine an algorithm might struggle to detect racism there. I think they initially had people manually root through reports but it probably wasn’t cost effective

I think you're right. I was banned for a few weeks because I called a naughty puppy on a dog page a cheeky little monkey.

JamSandle · 28/07/2023 00:33

Xenophobic more than racist I think.

MargretGotWood · 28/07/2023 00:43

Lots of nice messages but one says "at least the last few Local cats and dogs can relax".

I’m sure the Chinese owners must be having kittens

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