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hattie43 · 01/02/2023 06:24

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plumduck · 01/02/2023 06:45

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I don't understand why you'd leap to cannibalism?

Anyway. Yes OP. It's racist. Shame you can't call it out now as its hidden for you.

plumduck · 01/02/2023 06:45

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Have you been to the takeaway? How can it be factual?

watchfulwishes · 01/02/2023 06:50

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Your post is racist, which suggests you are racist too.

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 06:52

I was purely making another comparison to another culture that has a perceived stereotype. For some reason on Mumsnet, racist remarks towards a Chinese culture aren’t seen as such compared to other ethnic cultures. But those that replied illustrated my point- the outrage at the comparison used, but not the same level as to the one given in the OP

plumduck · 01/02/2023 07:01

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 06:52

I was purely making another comparison to another culture that has a perceived stereotype. For some reason on Mumsnet, racist remarks towards a Chinese culture aren’t seen as such compared to other ethnic cultures. But those that replied illustrated my point- the outrage at the comparison used, but not the same level as to the one given in the OP

Never heard of that stereotype

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 07:03

Doesn't mean it doesn’t exist though. It was a common one thrown around by the likes of the BNP where I lived in London.

plumduck · 01/02/2023 07:11

Oh right didn't know that.

Anyway yes the original comment about dogs and cats is racist. I'm always surprised when people come out with crap like that as it's 2023 and no one I know speaks like that.

xsquared · 01/02/2023 07:13

I'm gobsmacked by some of these responses.

I do not know anywhere in the UK where dog meat is sold. It is absolutely stereotyping and therefore a racist joke.

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 07:18

Completely agree @plumduck . A few years ago my 80 year old Chinese nan took her cat to the vets, a woman in the waiting room asked if she was fattening it up for Christmas dinner. Vets did nothing as it was ‘a joke’. When she was at an art class 10 years ago, a woman (from another ethnic background) asked her if her children are as ‘slitty eyed’ as her.
Happens on here as well (although not to that extent). There was a recent thread about a child’s skirt (from Disney I think) that had embroidered characters on it. The sheer number of people who thought the one of a Chinese girl (with just lines for eyes) wasn’t racist…

plumduck · 01/02/2023 08:10

@PaniniHead Depressing

saraclara · 01/02/2023 08:17

Of course it's racist. But when things like this are posted on Facebook groups, it's the admins of the group that have the facility to remove them. Going to META is going to be the clunkiest and slowest way of dealing with it. All the local groups I belong to have admins who would quickly delete it if it was reported (or even on their own initiative)

Andrelaxzz · 01/02/2023 08:27

Readytoplay · 01/02/2023 06:19

Unfortunately, the Meta reporting detector is fairly basic and it’s automatically programmed to only discover the “explicit” slurs (N-word, etc.) and not ‘micro aggressions’ (which are still every bit as offensive).
Chinese restaurants serving Dogs and Cat is a stereotypical idea that was once seen as ‘humour’, but rightly, not acceptable by today's standards. The other week I was watching an episode of ‘Only Fools’ when the following interaction between the brothers takes place when arriving at a Chinese takeaway which they are refurbishing. When Del Opens the door, a cat comes sprinting out :

Del: Oi, don't let him out...Well that's going to please Mr Chin innit?
Rodney: Was it his pet?
Del: No but number 39's off the menu.

As much as a classic the show is, there are some moments (such as this) that makes me cringe. However, this episode is from the early 80s (it's a ‘Grandad’ episode) and society has moved on and become more educated on things such as this.
The reason I mention this is because I am going to guess that the person who posted that comment on your Facebook page was a White, middle age, male. As, (at the risk of sounding hypocritical as this is also a stereotype) they are often the democratic who don’t always realise that humour from yesterday is seen as outdated today.

Loads of my friends are white, middle aged men they would never say this shit. Even though we were inundated with this sort of bollocks. It's not an excuse.

Honeybee8409 · 01/02/2023 09:23

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 06:52

I was purely making another comparison to another culture that has a perceived stereotype. For some reason on Mumsnet, racist remarks towards a Chinese culture aren’t seen as such compared to other ethnic cultures. But those that replied illustrated my point- the outrage at the comparison used, but not the same level as to the one given in the OP

No you are a racist.

Honeybee8409 · 01/02/2023 09:25

PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 07:03

Doesn't mean it doesn’t exist though. It was a common one thrown around by the likes of the BNP where I lived in London.

Stop making things up. I have never heard that stereotype. Please keep Africans out of your issues with the OP.

barneshome · 01/02/2023 09:30

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PaniniHead · 01/02/2023 09:33

You couldn’t be more wrong. Using a comparison doesn’t mean I am not right nor does it mean I am racist or believe in it. Don’t take it out of context.

Dotjones · 01/02/2023 09:33

I don't think it's necessarily racist because we don't know that the person who made the comment did so because of the race of the business owners. Without being able to see the article we don't even know that the business owners were Chinese - it's theoretically possible for example for a person of African ancestry to open a restaurant that specialises in food from another region.

I've heard comments about takeaways using dogs, cats, rodents and other things, but I've never considered them racist because I've heard them directed against all sorts of restaurants producing all sorts of cuisines run by people of all sorts of backgrounds. When my uncle, whose job was to investigate restaurant hygiene standards decades ago, regaled us with stories about finding rats in the deep fat fryer in a local branch of a popular fried chicken company (who happen to be named after an American state which shares a border with Tennessee amongst other states) I never considered it a racist slur against American people, just a sign of atrocious hygiene standards in specific restaurants.

tommika · 01/02/2023 09:47

Pollyperch · 31/01/2023 23:58

Local paper FB group. Story about longstanding popular Chinese takeaway closing down.

Lots of nice messages but one says "at least the last few Local cats and dogs can relax".

I reported to FB / META as racist. I received a response saying the comment did not breach their community standards and I should hide the commentator if I was offended. I appealed this decision but same response. I can no longer view this comment.

AIBU to think META are wrong and this is racist?

It is racist
But the reporting process goes into an automated system

In this case it has nothing in the content of the post that flags up in the phrases that a (current) automated system will recognise (and also may not be culturally recognised in the US, therefore they haven’t ‘primed’ the AI in that direction)

I’ve found the reporting system to be ‘better’ fairly recently with the automated system providing a much quicker response then it did in the past

It took months of multiple people reporting fake profile that was fraudulently ‘selling’ items in a particular hobby sport, using photos from ‘well known’ player in the community (who coincidently also happens to be a Met detective)
She had no joy, and the community were regularly finding & reporting sales posts and the profile for impersonation
The impersonation should have been an easy fix, but eventually action occurred after numerous reports

More recently I think I have managed to get a homophobic post brought down with a few reports. Initial automated responses didn’t act, but I think the action came from reporting to group moderators tagged to the relevant group rule

minou123 · 01/02/2023 09:50

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What the fuck is wrong with you?

Actually, scrap that, I dont care.

paintitallover · 01/02/2023 09:59

It's an obviously racist comment. Anyone unable to see it is racist themselves.

CountZacular · 01/02/2023 10:02

Yes, of course it's racist. I see these types of comments on local Facebook groups all the time (like the buy/sell ones, or the local newspaper). Facebook also seems to be absolutely rife with sexism and misogyny.

However the monitor bots don't recognise it and it doesn't ever seem to get escalated to a human (and even then, I'm not sure they'd do anything about it). Despite being a more 'grown up' social media, it's still very much a cesspool.

HoodieBell · 01/02/2023 10:05

They're useless. They told me that saying a disabled child should be euthanised is just a difference of opinion!

GrantShappsAteMyBrain · 01/02/2023 10:07

Yes, it's racist. Not just in bad taste but racist. Some people are racist arseholes. I doubt Facebook's algorithms will be set up very strictly. They will want to pass as much content as possible. Mark Zuckerberg is an arsehole as well and I think the world would be a better place without Facebook or any of its descendants.

Helendee · 01/02/2023 10:11

What about if the same was said to a French person regarding horse meat?