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Been caught speeding

315 replies

speedy49 · 31/01/2023 01:00

Help sorry I know this isn't AIBU but traffic

Tonight literally 15 mins ago so 00:40 ish I was driving home about a 10 minute journey on a road with a 60mph limit.
I was doing about 80. Yes I know I was in the wrong please dont bash me.
Then I got to my turning, turned in, and realise there was a police car behind me pretty much the whole time.
Now I'm freaking out because I know I was speeding and I know they were behind me. But they could have pulled me over and didn't, didn't even flash me?
I don't have any points, never paid any fine, never taken a speed awareness course.
Has anyone ever had a similar experience, if so did it end in a ticket or not?
Very worried, please be kind I know I was in the wrong

OP posts:
Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 10:37

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:32

You don’t get arrested for dangerous driving for hitting a deer FFS.

Well, it depends what other damage you do in the process of smashing your car into one 🤷🏻‍♀️

You dont get done for dangerous driving based on the damage, its based on the driving

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 10:40

legendyna · 31/01/2023 10:35

Yeah exactly, sometimes you actually have no choice and let's not pretend like any of us carry a high vis best in our handbag, alright.

Driver should be driving in the road, not skimming hedgerows

I don't carry a hi vis in my bag. However I do chose to live somewhere with pavements..

MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 31/01/2023 10:45

You won't get a ticket theyd of flashed you with a speed camera or pulled you over.

That said let this fear be a lesson, speed limits are there for a reason.
You're more likely to kill someone going 20 mph above the limit, and if you can't live with that fact or live without fear of a speeding ticket DONT SPEED. Speeding kills.

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:46

You dont get done for dangerous driving based on the damage, its based on the driving

Well, yes - when I say damage I mean things like spinning and smashing into another car etc.

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:53

I don't carry a hi vis in my bag. However I do chose to live somewhere with pavements.

Good for you?

Do you also never drive anywhere without pavements and phone signal in case you have an accident and need to walk and get help?

Any of us could get caught out and end up needing to walk on a poorly lit road to get help. I had to do it when my wheel was destroyed by a pot hole and I had no signal to ring my breakdown company. Luckily it was daylight!

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 10:55

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:46

You dont get done for dangerous driving based on the damage, its based on the driving

Well, yes - when I say damage I mean things like spinning and smashing into another car etc.

Still not necessarily dangerous driving unless they were driving dangerously in the first place. It is possible spin and crash into another car and the accident not even be your fault...

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:58

Still not necessarily dangerous driving unless they were driving dangerously in the first place. It is possible spin and crash into another car and the accident not even be your fault...

I'm pretty sure anyone driving at 80 in a 60 would be deemed at fault if they skidded and smashed into another car!

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 10:58

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 10:53

I don't carry a hi vis in my bag. However I do chose to live somewhere with pavements.

Good for you?

Do you also never drive anywhere without pavements and phone signal in case you have an accident and need to walk and get help?

Any of us could get caught out and end up needing to walk on a poorly lit road to get help. I had to do it when my wheel was destroyed by a pot hole and I had no signal to ring my breakdown company. Luckily it was daylight!

There's an argument there for the French system which requires you to keep high vis jackets and a warning triangle in your car

whataboutsecondbreakfast · 31/01/2023 11:01

There's an argument there for the French system which requires you to keep high vis jackets and a warning triangle in your car

Yep - I think it's an excellent idea personally.

Squamata · 31/01/2023 11:06

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 08:41

I'm sorry for what you have been through. But I have to take issue with something you said.

I had a car accident with personal injury and car write offs. My car insurance was minimally affected because it wasn't my fault....

It's the proximate cause of the accident that determines whose at fault. I don't know a single accident where speed itself was the actual cause.

The usual cause is that I'm human and made a mistake.

@Icedlatteplease I've never been in a major car accident but I used to work processing accident claims. I followed lots of accidents through the whole process and it was grim. Eg you'd see the photos and reports of the accident, then get medical and psych follow up reports at regular intervals and see how long it takes to recover anything like normality.

Car insurance premiums shoot through the roof if you have a conviction for a motor offence, obviously as your accident was not your fault it didn't impact your premiums.

Speed can be the cause of an accident, it reduces the amount of time you have to respond to a hazard like a dog running into the road, a car approaching etc. It also goes hand in hand with other reckless behaviours so people who speed might also use their phone behind the wheel, drink drive, not get their car serviced and MOT'd and insured etc. Exceeding the speed limit can be a criminal offence in itself or I think it can be an aggravating factor in something like careless driving (so you'd get a tougher sentence).

Frabbits · 31/01/2023 11:07

A police car clocking you speeding does not necessarily have to pull you over to issue you with a ticket.

All you can do is wait 2 weeks and see if you get one, and maybe slow down a bit, eh?

BellatrixLestrangesHeatedCurlers · 31/01/2023 11:08

The rules apply to you too.

I hope you get fined, it might teach you a lesson.

SilentNightDancer · 31/01/2023 11:19

It's interesting that some posters have brought up broken down cars, fallen trees and wild animals as potential hazards, while the posters defending speeding are going on about pedestrians wearing dark clothing.

fairysimples · 31/01/2023 11:19

I have a cheap high viz vest in my boot. I think it was a fiver?

I don't speed - there's a speed limited button on my steering wheel and I use it.

I hope you get done - that's 20mph over the speed limit.

chupachump · 31/01/2023 11:23

3kidswouldfinishanyoneoff · 31/01/2023 08:27

@chupachump you're post was deleted because you suggested the op was driving like a c@#t. Unnecessary.

They were.
I don't think it's unnecessary at all.

This place is honestly batshit. People lose their minds over the most minor stuff but apparently doing excessive speed on a dark road isn't that bad.

Itsnotalternateuniverses · 31/01/2023 11:30

I can't believe the OP has the cheek telling people to "be kind" after driving recklessly. The fact the OP is bothered more about what might happen to them speaks volumes.

I was in a car accident five years ago as a result of someone speeding. I now have a permanent disability. I lost my job, my career and had to give up my masters. If the person driving the car had not been a selfish idiot, I would not have to live in constant pain. It's pretty much destroyed my relationship with my partner and I am reliant on others. Yet drivers come on here and expect sympathy for breaking the law. Reckless idiots should have the book thrown at them.

Before anyone starts arguing. I was a passenger in a taxi. The other driver fled and has never been caught. I am still fighting for compensation.

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 11:42

lieselotte · 31/01/2023 08:31

No it isn't. I don't agree with 20 limits in urban areas though, because it causes more pollution than doing 30.

In fact I would say that we need the limit to be 60 on motorways and dual carriageways when it's very wet or foggy. Some people are sensible and drive to the conditions, but many are not. I'd quite like average speed cameras on all motorways.

We have common ground for the 20mph restrictions. Sensible in some small roads, but an utter piss take on main roads. Where we disagree is motorways which I think are perfectly safe with 80mph minimum.

Technonan · 31/01/2023 11:47

speedy49 · 31/01/2023 01:50

With respect, this thread isn't about how bad of a crime (legally or morally) speeding is. It was about whether others have had a similar experience and what the outcome was.

Thanks to those who have actually replied with something helpful 🙏🏼

This thread is about speeding. If you don't like what people say about this, don't post. And don't speed. I hope you do get sent on a speed awareness course becasue that might make you realsie how dangerous it is.

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 11:47

Squamata · 31/01/2023 11:06

@Icedlatteplease I've never been in a major car accident but I used to work processing accident claims. I followed lots of accidents through the whole process and it was grim. Eg you'd see the photos and reports of the accident, then get medical and psych follow up reports at regular intervals and see how long it takes to recover anything like normality.

Car insurance premiums shoot through the roof if you have a conviction for a motor offence, obviously as your accident was not your fault it didn't impact your premiums.

Speed can be the cause of an accident, it reduces the amount of time you have to respond to a hazard like a dog running into the road, a car approaching etc. It also goes hand in hand with other reckless behaviours so people who speed might also use their phone behind the wheel, drink drive, not get their car serviced and MOT'd and insured etc. Exceeding the speed limit can be a criminal offence in itself or I think it can be an aggravating factor in something like careless driving (so you'd get a tougher sentence).

I worked in a senior role loss recovery and third party claims with friends in PI and accounting (so handling the actual pay outs). I don't normally mention it on these threads because most people dont know what that means. I spent a lot of time explaining to policyholders why the other person speeding was completely irrelevant given the lack of injuries/they pulled out in front of the speeding vehicle.

Speed may exacibate injuries, it does not cause accidents.

Just to clarify when we say that speed exacerbated the injuries it doesn't necessarily mean speeding either. In my own car accident the third party was diving within the speed limit possibly even as low as 20mph actually in my case, but because I was stationary, speed exacerbated the injuries. In their case as they were young and hadn't been driving long, it probably raised their insurance prohibitively. someone who had been driving years without significant incident with protected no claims bonus, it will raise their premium a bit, but not the end of the world. (else saga insurance would be out of business). Most people will be somewhere between the two.

If you hit a pedestrian at 29 mph you may be within the speed limit but the difference in speed between 20 and 29 mph is likely to make a material difference to the person you hit. Hitting a pedestrian at Anything above 50, 10 mph difference isn't likely to increase the pedestrians chances. Tbf 20 mph in a lorry isn't likely to be great either...

Given how many people speed, I think you can say those that show reckless behaviour are more likely to speed not the reverse. Correlation does not mean causation.

Yes dangerous driving may include or be aggravated by speed but speeding alone does not equate todangerous driving. Why we have both convictionconviction

A speeding ticket really won't add much to your insurance. A conviction for dangerous absolutely will

Icedlatteplease · 31/01/2023 11:51

Not sure what happened to the formatting there

ReneBumsWombats · 31/01/2023 11:54

The site sometimes ignores your paragraphs, and sometimes makes them really clear.

Frabbits · 31/01/2023 11:54

Vaselining · 31/01/2023 11:42

We have common ground for the 20mph restrictions. Sensible in some small roads, but an utter piss take on main roads. Where we disagree is motorways which I think are perfectly safe with 80mph minimum.

It's a myth that driving at 20mph results in more emissions than at 30.

viques · 31/01/2023 11:57

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 31/01/2023 05:31

If you are lucky you will get the option of a speed awareness course where you will learn the impact of going over the speed limit and how just a few miles slower can mean the difference between life and death for you and others and hopefully you will slow down and drive more reasonably.

Otherwise you might get points on your licence or even court if you were going more than a certain percentage over the speed limit.

Another day though, if your speeding killed someone, it could be prison so being followed by a police car was not too bad an option today.

Why did you need to get home so quickly?

Won’t get the option of a course, the discrepancy is too much.

AngeloMysterioso · 31/01/2023 12:16

Tonight literally 15 mins ago so 00:40 ish I was driving home about a 10 minute journey on a road with a 60mph limit.

I was doing about 80. Yes I know I was in the wrong please dont bash me.

Why the fuck shouldn’t we bash you? That’s ridiculously irresponsible, people like you shouldn’t be on the road.

TheGoogleMum · 31/01/2023 12:22

I do speed a little sometimes... but if it was too dark to see it was a police car behind you it was probably too dark to be driving 20mph over the speed limit tbh