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Prostitute says she does wives a favour!

123 replies

Dinodigger · 27/01/2023 21:15

She controversially admits that while many have partners, she believes she's actually doing their marriages a favour.

AIBU to think that actually no, you aren't doing anyone a favour and are actually helping to destroying families?

OP posts:
2013isback · 27/01/2023 22:36

Why are women not allowed to hate other women who take away their husbands? It's really odd.Some kind of taboo.

Many do; there are loads of threads on here by women personally angry at their husband's affair partner(s). It's just also often pointed out that, logically, the bulk of the anger should be targeted at the cheater - who has not only done something socially unacceptable (been involved in an affair) but also has lied, broken specific promises, and betrayed trust on a personal level and actively hurt someone he's supposed to care deeply about.

Sometimes it comes across as if a particular woman is MORE angry at a complete stranger rather than holding the person she knows and loves and is supposed to be able to trust to a reasonable standard. Even on a purely practical level, unless the "other woman" is also a personal friend, she's a distraction from the real problem (a cheating husband) that needs to be dealt with.

MiniTheMinx · 27/01/2023 22:43

She obviously has set herself apart from other women. She's a woman who loves sex, the other women (wives) don't. Perhaps she should stop to think.....how many punters a day can she see? how many men would actually want to have sex with her? she overestimates herself really. The fact is she has sex with men that no one else wants sex with! and why might that be?

Too many men think working their wives into the ground for unpaid and paid labour is just fine. Then look at her and wonder why the joyful carefree sexy woman disappeared. Too many women seem to wear this exploitation as a badge of honor and a virtue. And to what end? Because I sure as hell wouldn't want sex with a man who was so entitled he thought I could bring home the bacon, then cook it, then do all the washing up all in the name of equality.

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:45

MiniTheMinx · 27/01/2023 22:43

She obviously has set herself apart from other women. She's a woman who loves sex, the other women (wives) don't. Perhaps she should stop to think.....how many punters a day can she see? how many men would actually want to have sex with her? she overestimates herself really. The fact is she has sex with men that no one else wants sex with! and why might that be?

Too many men think working their wives into the ground for unpaid and paid labour is just fine. Then look at her and wonder why the joyful carefree sexy woman disappeared. Too many women seem to wear this exploitation as a badge of honor and a virtue. And to what end? Because I sure as hell wouldn't want sex with a man who was so entitled he thought I could bring home the bacon, then cook it, then do all the washing up all in the name of equality.

Do you genuinely think women go into prostitution because they love sex? Jesus Christ, I knew there were some deluded men who convinced themselves this was the case but I didn’t think there could possibly be a woman who did.

Dinodigger · 27/01/2023 22:48

@HotPotInASpot the prostitute in the article states she got into the sex industry because she loves sex.

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Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:48

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:29

How many prostitutes do you know? Not “sex workers” as in strippers or cam girls but actual prostitutes? I’ve worked with hundreds over the years and I can think of possibly 3 who were not being pimped out, on drugs, desperately supporting a child/ family member or had quite severe mental health issues. These are women right across the board from homeless women to high end agency girls.

I understand all of that. The prostitutes though, are individuals choosing to be immoral. I'm an addict myself, it doesn't excuse anyone from making an immoral choice. You want to infantilise people, that's your choice.

ArtVandalay · 27/01/2023 22:48

There will always be prostitutes as long as there are men happy to objectify women. Decent men don’t pay for sex.

Ncgirlseriously · 27/01/2023 22:51

She isn’t destroying anybody’s marriage. Married men who choose to pay for sex are destroying their own marriages. Men have agency.

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:51

Dinodigger · 27/01/2023 22:48

@HotPotInASpot the prostitute in the article states she got into the sex industry because she loves sex.

And you believe that? Genuinely? A woman with no mental health issues who loves sex thinks “I’ll turn this hobby into a completely risk free career”? I’m absolutely gobsmacked at the naivety from some women on this thread. Just live in your blissful ignorance, I guess.

Puppyseahorse · 27/01/2023 22:54

IntentionalError · 27/01/2023 21:40

I don’t criticise sex workers. They are earning their living in their chosen profession and, as long as they are paying their taxes, who am I to judge or moralise?

Is this tongue in cheek, about the taxes?

I’m pretty sure prostitution is a cash only type of business 😂

ConcordeOoter · 27/01/2023 22:55

Honestly, I can kind of see what she means in a way - instead of falling in love with an affair partner, these husbands are meeting a particular sexual desire with someone transactionally, with defined parameters and no emotional connection to 'take away' from the marriage.

I've heard the argument made by a sex worker, and superficially it makes sense that someone living in the terrible hell of a marriage without intimacy they need, who would otherwise not consider an affair, is able to get that one component without needing to form any emotional connection outside the relationship.

The truth however is different. There is exposure to disease, and there is the way it defiles the relationship and family and soul to turn it all into a lie. Every kiss for your spouse, every moment with your kids, every year you grow old together, all sullied.

Not a favour in my opinion.

Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:55

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:51

And you believe that? Genuinely? A woman with no mental health issues who loves sex thinks “I’ll turn this hobby into a completely risk free career”? I’m absolutely gobsmacked at the naivety from some women on this thread. Just live in your blissful ignorance, I guess.

There are hardly any women with no mental health issues. Mumsnet has no idea about most working class womens lives.

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:55

Puppyseahorse · 27/01/2023 22:54

Is this tongue in cheek, about the taxes?

I’m pretty sure prostitution is a cash only type of business 😂

Of course it isn’t cash only. We’re well past the days of prostitutes hanging around streets to pick up punters. It’s all AdultWork and agencies these days.

lifeinthehills · 27/01/2023 23:01

Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:55

There are hardly any women with no mental health issues. Mumsnet has no idea about most working class womens lives.

Don't most women on Mumsnet work, or get back to work after a period of time? Therefore, working class?

StrawberryAnnie · 27/01/2023 23:08

I’ve not read the article, but think I may understand her point.

Some men may consider leaving their wifes for another woman, but not for a sex worker. She has been dehumanised in their eyes and sex with her is transactional.

Side note: I would never want to be in a relationship with a man like this. It’s the Madonna/ Whore complex.

HagridTheGiant · 27/01/2023 23:09

Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:48

I understand all of that. The prostitutes though, are individuals choosing to be immoral. I'm an addict myself, it doesn't excuse anyone from making an immoral choice. You want to infantilise people, that's your choice.

The immoral people in this situation are those taking advantage of women who are mostly in highly vulnerable or desperate situations.

Felix01 · 27/01/2023 23:15

Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:48

I understand all of that. The prostitutes though, are individuals choosing to be immoral. I'm an addict myself, it doesn't excuse anyone from making an immoral choice. You want to infantilise people, that's your choice.

Immoral 🤣🤣. The man literally has to search and initiate contact with the prostitute through text phone call or social media. The days of street corners are very much gone only hard drug addicts do that. He was already thinking about cheating. Is a sex worker supposed to ask and screen for relationship status ? He doesn't accidentally trip and his dick falls in. Men are sentient beings with their own agency they make calculated choices.

ConfusedNT · 27/01/2023 23:22

Msgrieves · 27/01/2023 22:48

I understand all of that. The prostitutes though, are individuals choosing to be immoral. I'm an addict myself, it doesn't excuse anyone from making an immoral choice. You want to infantilise people, that's your choice.

The drug industry is hugely immoral though, it funds crime, human trafficking and modern slavery. Respectfully taking drugs is an immoral a choice as being a prostitute if not more so.

MiniTheMinx · 27/01/2023 23:37

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:45

Do you genuinely think women go into prostitution because they love sex? Jesus Christ, I knew there were some deluded men who convinced themselves this was the case but I didn’t think there could possibly be a woman who did.

No I don't. Read what she has to say, it's she who says she loves sex, and says she's doing other women a favour.

TicketBoo23 · 28/01/2023 00:22

HotPotInASpot · 27/01/2023 22:29

How many prostitutes do you know? Not “sex workers” as in strippers or cam girls but actual prostitutes? I’ve worked with hundreds over the years and I can think of possibly 3 who were not being pimped out, on drugs, desperately supporting a child/ family member or had quite severe mental health issues. These are women right across the board from homeless women to high end agency girls.

Yep

Anyone who believes otherwise should read UK punting review and read between the lines.

They mention it if they speak much English - because it's so common for them not to.

They mention them being surly, negative & their "clock watching".

They mention their pimps.

They sometimes mention signs of drug use.

Etc etc

TicketBoo23 · 28/01/2023 00:25

The prostitutes though, are individuals choosing to be immoral.

I don't think a foreign woman brought to the UK, legally or illegally, with no money, little or no English, "managed" by gang member pimps, paying off debts, supporting family members back home, unaware of and probably purposefully kept from social welfare etc etc .... Are choosing to be immoral.

Cheekymaw · 28/01/2023 00:26

It's the men isn't it

TicketBoo23 · 28/01/2023 00:26

Nor are drug addicts who can't hold down a "normal" job.

MissTrip82 · 28/01/2023 01:42

Surely your loathing is reserved for the men who think they can buy sexual consent? Whether married or not, they are disgusting.

When married there’s the additional angle of failing to keep their marriage vows, of course.

vera99 · 28/01/2023 02:39

Mum2jenny · 27/01/2023 22:06

Men have the option of where to put their cock. End of!!
If they can’t control their cock, they are not men, they are a child.

For some reason Boris Johnson and Prince Andrew popped into my head , they are a lot of them around sadly.

Coyoacan · 28/01/2023 03:40

Poor woman, trying to see a good side to what is being done to her.

I said you are being unreasonable, because the prostitute is not responsible for the actions of her punters.