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AIBU?

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Friend wants to stay on our couch for 3/4 weeks

333 replies

Feliciacat · 25/01/2023 00:45

Hi all.

Bit of a situation today; a friend has broken their ankle, torn their ankle ligaments and sprained the other ankle. They have my every sympathy for this, I’ve done similar in the past. They asked our friend group for lifts to the hospital and I’ve said I can only do it on weekends (their appointments will be on weekdays most likely) but to let me know if they need any help at all on evenings and weekends.

They’re now asking if he can stay on our couch for 3/4 weeks as he lives in a weirdly shaped flat with lots of stairs meaning he’d struggle to get to the bathroom. We have a ground floor bathroom.

My concerns are:

I don’t think we can give him the care he needs if he lives at ours. Work won’t let me or my partner flex if it’s just taking care of a friend. My partner is very busy with work and so am I and I’m usually in the office. I don’t think it’d be an appropriate environment for him as we’d have to practically ignore him during work hours. Plus, from a selfish point of view, it would be stressful for us as we couldn’t have people over and I need to finish my professional course by mid Feb. I do t know how we can manage looking after him.

This friend has asked me for many favours; lifts to vet appointments, every time I come over he has stuff for the tip for me to take and when he’s had parties he’s asked me for lifts to the supermarket (he has no access to a car and can’t drive due to disability). I have felt used.

I felt a lot more used after a friend of his offended me at a party (he said I was old and should get a move on with having kids and that I’d have at least one miscarriage). I said to my friend that if that person was at a party again then I didn’t want to come. I said I’d never make them choose sides but couldn’t face seeing that person again as he’d hurt my feelings so much (I cried every day for a week). My friend’s response was to say he wasn’t going to accommodate this and that I’d been over sensitive. His partner compared me to a really bitchy girl from her past in response to me trying to set this boundary!

This friend and his partner have been ignoring my messages ever since this exchange (2 months ago). That’s out of character. I think they didn’t like me as much and wanted to be less friendly with me because I said no to something for once. Now, they’re being friendly again. I feel awful about what’s happened but I suspect they’re using me again.

AIBU?

YABU: You should have him to stay and let bygones be bygones; he needs help.

YANBU: It’s a tough situation but despite this, you don’t have to let him stay.

OP posts:
Vynalbob · 26/01/2023 20:04

This is a very easy choice especially given the background. Don't let him stay he has other options (partner, friend who was nasty, etc)..... expect a bit of flack from them but it's the right thing to do if it gets too irritating block until at least after your course stress.

That's my view anyway
Good Luck

Shudahaddogs · 26/01/2023 20:04

UmbilicusProfundus · 25/01/2023 00:51

This doesn’t even sound like a dilemma to me. Just say no. It’s clearly an unreasonable request. You might have considered for a close friend, but he doesn’t even sound like any kind of friend at all.

This ...this..this

KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 20:42

AllyArty · 26/01/2023 19:29

Just say NO. Explain that you couldn’t give him the care he requires and he would be better in an place where there are people coming and going during the day. Offer other types of help ie stuff you can do, like cook him a meal, clean his house etc.

That's it. Be a strong independent woman, & tell him no.

Then be even stronger. The kind of strength it takes to be a housework skivvy to an abusive arsehole. That'll show him you're not to be messed with. 🙄

KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 20:47

Feliciacat · 26/01/2023 19:46

Thanks so much guys! In terms of what he gives me, he does buy lots of food for me when we’re together. I always offer money and he says no. He buys me lots of McDonalds and beer which I don’t always want. I feel like he’d say he’d spent a lot of money on me so how could I leave him. He hasn’t said that yet but thinking about the answer to what he’s given me; that’s what.

Additional update is that my partner and I spoke to some mutual friends and they said that they’d stopped really speaking to them due to behaviour like this and that they were glad for me that I’d stopped putting up with it. It felt very validating.

Stop worrying about how he is going to interrogate you & demand service, & start realising that when he does - you don't owe him a response.

So either just don't respond - or better yet, just block the twat now.
Then you never need to fend off his rudeness & entitlement again.

Tiani4 · 26/01/2023 21:05

Just to say, if he lived alone and couldn't mobilise to toilet or food or drinks and had no one to help him, he could contact his local Social care team for assessment as they could would sort out a care package if he required it (met care act criteria)

They'd assess and he'd pay towards his care. He's already getting some type of disability benefits (DLA or pip). So he probably knows this. I

ellyeth · 26/01/2023 22:12

If he was a very good friend then I might consider it. However, his attitude towards you being upset by his friend's very rude and insensitive remark - calling YOU "over sensitive" - would not make me feel bad about refusing his request. As for his partner implying that you are "bitchy", that is just horrible. Just say it would be too difficult, given that there is no bedroom to accommodate him, you are both busy, and sleeping on the couch would be most inconvenient.

Saying you are like family is a sneaky way of pressuring you to do what he wants. He'd better find someone else to be at his beck and call.

Feliciacat · 26/01/2023 22:29

We actually do have a spare bedroom with an ensuite. I just feel like he would need far more care than he is implying he would need. Plus I had been feeling bad since the incident two months ago and had been considering letting the friendship fade anyway.

It really annoys me that suddenly I am good enough to contact now that he needs something. They still haven’t replied to my last message; they’re probably fuming about me being ‘selfish’. I’m terribly sorry about his ankle and really hope it heals as quickly and well as possible. Not sure our friendship will!

OP posts:
Gardeningpot · 26/01/2023 22:33

YANBU
"No, apologies this won't suit us
I am around for anything else/errands "

surely his gf can have him?!

Feliciacat · 26/01/2023 22:45

They live together! So yes you would think so! I’m almost wondering if she maybe wanted to be able to share his care with us as she’d find it too stressful. I think they should get help from her family though.

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dementor72 · 26/01/2023 22:55

Oh my word , he knows how to manipulate doesn’t he ?
Cut all ties with this nasty CF ( seems like other people are doing so already )
Best of luck going forward with your own family plans .

Wdib78 · 27/01/2023 05:36

He's been ignoring your messages, time to return the favour, ignore him and block. He's no friend he's just a user.

Tiani4 · 27/01/2023 06:23

Feliciacat · 26/01/2023 22:45

They live together! So yes you would think so! I’m almost wondering if she maybe wanted to be able to share his care with us as she’d find it too stressful. I think they should get help from her family though.

You're kidding right?
He DOESNT LIVE ALONE??!!

Absolutely zero reason to ask you to have him move in!!
It's he and his gf who are selfish, his gf can arrange a commode which she can empty and she can help her live in partner, as errrrr, she's there, rather than be lazy and attempt to farm him off to someone mug to look after
Jeez you couldn't believe the entitlement would get worse.

No in sickness and I health with this couple..

MeridianB · 27/01/2023 07:29

Another one saying block now. And stop caring what they think!

Skodacool · 27/01/2023 07:37

Additional update is that my partner and I spoke to some mutual friends and they said that they’d stopped really speaking to them due to behaviour like this and that they were glad for me that I’d stopped putting up with it. It felt very validating
This tells you everything you need to know. He’ll only get the message when you put a stop to him trying to take advantage of you.

Notsoivorytower · 27/01/2023 08:50

Hard NO - no explanation needed!

ColdCycle · 27/01/2023 11:22

Well done! You stood up to them.
Now just leave the WhatsApp group then delete it. Clear out the rubbish.

CrazyLadie · 27/01/2023 12:18

Fraaahnces · 25/01/2023 01:23

”No. You are only polite to me when you need my services. You only contact me when you want something. Apart from that you are rude and downright cruel. Go and invade the boundaries of someone you respect instead.”

This 1 billion % 👏👏👏👏

Justbefair · 27/01/2023 17:35

If it was a dear friend who reciprocated favours then I would help of course but this guy sounds like a user. His gf can look after him surely, get a mobile chemical toilet. There may also be somewhere funded he could stay if he pleaded or have his home modified if on disability and even assistance with hygiene. I'm so soft but have learnt to try to say no more if being used.

BusyMum47 · 27/01/2023 18:03

Fuck, no - why are you even considering it? I'd cut them loose permanently anyway, regardless of this current piss-take!

Monsun · 27/01/2023 20:24

My boyfriend said he couldn’t stay because it’d be bad for his body to sleep on a sofa.
STOP JUSTIFYING YOURSELVES/YOUR BEHAVIOUR.
That sentence should read: My boyfriend said he couldn't stay.
End of.
You don't need to give a reason for any decision you make, certainly not if one is being demanded. 'You can't stay.' IS a complete answer. No reason required.

I bet they’ll go cold on me and bitch about me tbh.
So? And what would they even say? How you wouldn't let them stay because you don't want them to? Oh, how awful.😭
Honestly, all anyone else will hear is that you're an adult busily getting on with your own life.
Tbh, let them bitch and go cold on you - what a remarkably easy way to solve the problem!

Lessons to be learned here:

  1. You don't need to justify yourself to anyone. Ever.
  2. You are entitled to feel whatever you feel whenever you feel it. Oh, and 'oversensitive' is an abuser's tag line.
  3. Stop caring about what others say about you, especially abusers!

(My friend has just added this thought for you: why does he get to be the dick, but you don't?) Be the dick my (MN) friend, be the dick! 😁

Feliciacat · 27/01/2023 20:44

I’m really feeling that! I don’t care if I’m a dick, at least I get to be free!

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jac67 · 29/01/2023 09:15

Definetely wouldnt let him stay, added complications if he wants partner and the said friend to come over to keep him company, you will find yourself hiding out upstairs in your own house, I know because its happened to me.
Just wish I could take my own advise, I always seem to cave then regret and feel really weal for giving in again, try to put yourself and partner first.

Oldraver · 29/01/2023 11:21

Edders71 · 25/01/2023 07:41

“I am sorry but as I’m so old I’m spending all my spare time trying to get pregnant. I need the sofa free in case the mood takes me there and then. All the best xx”

I was going to say tell him you're far too busy TTC

HamBone · 29/01/2023 14:06

Oldraver · 29/01/2023 11:21

I was going to say tell him you're far too busy TTC

🤣🤣🤣 I’d be more explicit and say that “We’re using all the furniture as we’re TCC.” He’ll never want to eat off your table again. 🤣

Back2Back2t · 30/01/2023 08:52

HamBone · 29/01/2023 14:06

🤣🤣🤣 I’d be more explicit and say that “We’re using all the furniture as we’re TCC.” He’ll never want to eat off your table again. 🤣

😂😂😂