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Was what he did justified?

154 replies

1999its · 18/01/2023 22:09

DP and I have been seeing each other again after 5/6 months apart and I'm really enjoying my time with him.

We had an argument today about what has previously happened between us. We almost ended because of this argument. It got heated and I got emotional and raised my voice, which I shouldn't have.

Long story short:

I got pregnant after the relationship was essentially over. We weren't officially together anymore and hadn't been for just under two weeks but were still seeing each other every day, having sex, going on dates etc.

I told him the news over the phone. Less than 24hrs after finding out he came round and told me he was abandoning and the baby if I kept it, that was it, no conversation. He didn't ask me if I was okay.

I had said I needed to find out how far along I was before I made a decision. I never said I had any intention to keep the baby.

I told him to go to hell and told him to leave, I was probably shouting. I also said I was going to call him mum, so he called her first.

His family blocked me on everything. I didn't hear anything for a month. He resurfaces and asks if I've kept it or not. Says that he does want to be involved and did all along but he wanted me to feel like I had no choice but to terminate. I told him to fuck off.

I was mentally through the floor. There was a lot of swearing and "you're a piece of shit" types texts from me.

I miscarried and then got a severe infection following. All very scary and messy. We weren't in contact at this point, I felt so alone.

His perspective:

He doesn't feel that what he did was selfish. He said he did care about me in the situation, that he loved me.

He did it because he had an inkling I'd keep the baby, he says he still thinks that was my intention. He said that he had to weigh up between doing a horrible thing or having a baby ruin our lives and our families life. He said he had to take an extreme measure.

He says that guys do this all the time and say things like "I won't have anything to do with that baby" so he's not in a minority and it's not some crazy, left field thing that he's done.

I could well be overreacting to the situation. I would like the perspective of outsiders and I'm prepared to get flamed. Should I accept his reasons and let it lie?

I have forgiven him. It's important for me in all my relationships in life to forgive and not hold onto things. But it still hurts.

OP posts:
JudgeRudy · 19/01/2023 10:09

I'm a bit confused about what you're arguing about. He abandoned you when you fell pregnant with his child. He later 'reconsidered' things and got back in touch but you had miscarried the baby. You're now dating again and discussed this. He's of the opinion that what he did wasn't so bad and is justifying his actions....is that correct?
You're dating him now. You said you've forgiven him. That's entirely up to you but I know many people would not even give him the time of day.
What's the argument about now though? Are you disagreeing what happened? Do you feel like hes 'tricked' you into forgiving him and he's not really sorry? Is he trying to justify his actions or trying to explain(badly) how he felt. Ask him how he would handle the situation now if he could go back or even if it should happen again (please say it wont).
My confusion is why you are arguing about it now after you've already agreed to get back together.

ladycarlotta · 19/01/2023 10:52

Hope you come back and read all these replies, OP. All I can do is add my voice to the choir: he not only manipulated you into doing what he wanted, he felt comfortable telling you that He sees it as a completely acceptable way to control you in your most vulnerable moments and he is frank about it. He's showing you exactly who he is.

Nothing about this is forgivable, or normal, or acceptable, or respectful. It's certainly not love.

Aphrathestorm · 19/01/2023 18:13

No

That's all the answer you need to your question.

Ireolu · 19/01/2023 18:25

Please have a serious think about contraception ideally long acting contraception to prevent pregnancy with this person again. I unfortunately think that you will stay with him. I am happy to be wrong.

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