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Was what he did justified?

154 replies

1999its · 18/01/2023 22:09

DP and I have been seeing each other again after 5/6 months apart and I'm really enjoying my time with him.

We had an argument today about what has previously happened between us. We almost ended because of this argument. It got heated and I got emotional and raised my voice, which I shouldn't have.

Long story short:

I got pregnant after the relationship was essentially over. We weren't officially together anymore and hadn't been for just under two weeks but were still seeing each other every day, having sex, going on dates etc.

I told him the news over the phone. Less than 24hrs after finding out he came round and told me he was abandoning and the baby if I kept it, that was it, no conversation. He didn't ask me if I was okay.

I had said I needed to find out how far along I was before I made a decision. I never said I had any intention to keep the baby.

I told him to go to hell and told him to leave, I was probably shouting. I also said I was going to call him mum, so he called her first.

His family blocked me on everything. I didn't hear anything for a month. He resurfaces and asks if I've kept it or not. Says that he does want to be involved and did all along but he wanted me to feel like I had no choice but to terminate. I told him to fuck off.

I was mentally through the floor. There was a lot of swearing and "you're a piece of shit" types texts from me.

I miscarried and then got a severe infection following. All very scary and messy. We weren't in contact at this point, I felt so alone.

His perspective:

He doesn't feel that what he did was selfish. He said he did care about me in the situation, that he loved me.

He did it because he had an inkling I'd keep the baby, he says he still thinks that was my intention. He said that he had to weigh up between doing a horrible thing or having a baby ruin our lives and our families life. He said he had to take an extreme measure.

He says that guys do this all the time and say things like "I won't have anything to do with that baby" so he's not in a minority and it's not some crazy, left field thing that he's done.

I could well be overreacting to the situation. I would like the perspective of outsiders and I'm prepared to get flamed. Should I accept his reasons and let it lie?

I have forgiven him. It's important for me in all my relationships in life to forgive and not hold onto things. But it still hurts.

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BeachesDiary · 18/01/2023 22:24

Good lord OP, forgive him by all means but raise your bar and finish with this awful man (and his awful family). You say you had finished with him anyway when you go pregnant, so do it again and mean it this time.

hattie43 · 18/01/2023 22:25

You both sound very toxic and immature together .

ShellsOnTheBeach · 18/01/2023 22:28

On the off chance that this is real.....

I am absolutely flabbergasted that you would even CONSIDER staying with this POS.

I don't normally swear, but for goodness sake, raise your standards!

ClangingBell · 18/01/2023 22:28

WTF are you doing going back to him? Block him and get some therapy to work out why you think this is all you’re worth.

catandcoffee · 18/01/2023 22:28

Really he done this to you ?
If its true and you've gone back to him...... I'm a bit speechless and wish you well !

AtrociousCircumstance · 18/01/2023 22:29

You have to be very broken to take this man back into your life.

babytum · 18/01/2023 22:32

Your back was to the wall and he let you down and abandoned you.
How could you trust that he’d be your rock in the future when times are hard when he’s already told you he’s not that sort of man.
You can forgive and move forward with your life, you can’t change past events but why invite the same back in for your future.
I wish you well with whatever decision you come to with this relationship but you’d be very unwise to think past behaviour isn’t a very good insight into future behaviour.

IWasFunBeforeMum · 18/01/2023 22:33

Why on earth are you seeing this creature again AND understanding his abhorrent behaviour to you back then??

Frazzledmummy123 · 18/01/2023 22:34

Sorry to be blunt but the only reason he is back is the baby you miscarried is out the picture.

He tried to manipulate you into an abortion, doesn't even ask how you are, and because he said the word sorry and has now acknowledged it was hard for you (how considerate of him 🙄). And you feel bad for raising your voice at him?? I think you need to break free from him and speak to someone about standing up for yourself. You have let him walk all over you.

Regularsizedrudy · 18/01/2023 22:34

Fucking hell. You get to choose who you go out with you know, why oh why would you choose this sorry specimen.
Some things are unforgivable, this is one of them. He not only abandoned you, he tried to manipulate you in the cruelest way possible. I imagine he was rubbing his hands with glee while you were going through the trauma of a miscarriage.
The normal response would be to loath and despise this man.. but you have let him back into your life and into your bed?!?! WHY?
Who on earth has made you think this is the relationship you deserve?

LadyOfTheFliessssss · 18/01/2023 22:34

Some things shouldn't be forgiven. I get not holding onto resentments, but that doesn't mean allowing that person a second chance to do the same or worse to you in the future.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 18/01/2023 22:35

He's an arsehole. Honestly

Clarinet1 · 18/01/2023 22:35

Quite apart from his lack of concern for you over the miscarriage and subsequent infection, it sounds as though this man was taking advantage of you when you were not officially together. It really sounds as though he was only interested in sex and, if he believes lots of men abandon women when they get pregnant (which is probably true) then he can stay away! To coin an MN phrase, you deserve better! I’m sorry you got involved with such an uncaring man and his equally uncaring family. Take time for yourself and, when you feel stronger, there will be something better out there.

2chocolateoranges · 18/01/2023 22:36

You need to raise the bar, why would you want to be with a man like this.

he sounds horrid!

Takenoprisoner · 18/01/2023 22:38

1999its · 18/01/2023 22:14

He has apologised and acknowledged it must've been hard for me.

In what way is he sorry if he's justifying his behaviour?

This is a 'sorry you were upset' apology. He's not sorry, he's just sorry you had a hard time, but not for causing it.

This man caused you very real psychological harm and trauma, and you getting back with him is a form of self harm.

SeeYouNextTLol · 18/01/2023 22:38

LTB

MamaBear1022 · 18/01/2023 22:41

Haven't you posted this before about staying with your OH?

gettingolderandgrumpier · 18/01/2023 22:41

If you’ve forgiven him then why is it still in discussion? You’ve obviously not and rightly so .
if you feel you have a future with this man then you need to make it clear it’s not ok what he did and his pitiful excuses won’t wash.
personally I’d not even think about getting involved with this man again but if I did he’d have to beg forgiveness and admit responsibility. He’s done none of that from what I can see.

FontSnob · 18/01/2023 22:41

Wow, what a horrible person he is. There is not a chance in hell that i’d want to be anywhere near anyone that did this to me.

Tilllly · 18/01/2023 22:43

There are some wonderful men out there
Who make you happy, secure. Who listen, care, who are a friend, lover and partner

He's not one of them. He's a cockwomble

Leave him and be free to find someone wonderful

Ladybug14 · 18/01/2023 22:43

Wow. What a wanker. Why are you still with him?

RandomPerson42 · 18/01/2023 22:44

What a scumbag, a real man would not act like that.

Emmamoo89 · 18/01/2023 22:45

Please bin him. You deserve so much better

RedHelenB · 18/01/2023 22:47

So how far along were you? Would you have kept the baby? And if so would you have got back with him? sounds very complicated to me, and the fact you're questioning his behaviour suggests you're not 100% sure you've made the right decision to get back with him.

Jux · 18/01/2023 22:49

Oh just get rid of him.