to not know if this offensive?

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Colleague in canteen queue today, I comment that the food looks tasty. She makes a face, points to the label and says “Yeah but look, I’m not eating that!”

Label says “Halal beef casserole”.

I say “but it’s just a different way of slaughtering the cow”

”Yeah I know, that’s what I mean, it’s SO cruel. I can’t have that on my conscience.”

This was all very loud and other people overheard. Neither colleague nor I are Muslim but many other colleagues are. I felt very uncomfortable, didn’t engage, and ordered the beef.

Is this just no different to a vegetarian declaring loudly that they couldn’t possibly be so cruel as to eat meat, or is it a slur on Muslims? It felt inappropriate, especially at work.

Not offensive- it’s like a vegetarian saying they don’t agree with animal slaughter practices in general. Tbh no method is without cruelty so if your colleague finds it cruel she should probably stop eating meat altogether, but that’s another debate

Yep I am offended by this particular killing method but I am okay with this one as long as I can eat my meat haha

There were wide spread complaints when the government considered all LEA's to move towards Halal only. Because of the protesting, plans were changed. The same happened when contracts for hospital catering were considered.
We all have the right to be against parts of a religion, that doesn't make us phobic. Wanting the right to choose re pregnancy doesn't make a person anti catholic. There's parts of Islam that I'll never agree with, that doesn't make me islamaphobic, or anti Muslim.

Most curry houses are Bangladeshi.

A pet being put to sleep is obviously different to slaughtering an animal for food.

If an owner chooses to out their pet to sleep, the animal is probably dying anyway so the choice is between a slow, painful death and a quick, peaceful one - but death is happening anyway. It is usually decided in the best interests of the animal.

Don't try to pretend that it's in the best interests of a young, fit animal to be slaughtered for food. Many meat eaters try to kid themselves that somehow animals want to be eaten or that it is their destiny. Complete cognitive dissonance.

Whoever said this is correct halal is cruel and should not be allowed in the UK. An MP campaigned to ban it and was murdered, intimidation at it’s worst.

In the interests of offensive quotes, that quote is possibly more offensive than your colleagues? So why can you have an opinion and not her?

What? How is that offensive?

Because there's a difference between an objective fact and a value statement?

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Halal meat is cruel. The British Veterinary Ass. do not support it. There is no perfect solution to food production - whether meat or vegetarian options but we should always be looking for the best solutions. It is not offensive to say that.

'EU and UK legislation requires that all livestock is stunned before slaughter to render them insensible to pain at the time of killing. However, the law also allows an exemption for animals slaughtered in accordance with religious rites. Every year millions of animals are slaughtered without pre-stunning, compromising their welfare'.

www.bva.co.uk/take-action/welfare-at-slaughter-campaign/

So what conditions we keep animals in wasn't worth campaigning for? We should go back to the long distance transportation of live animals? There should be no farm animal welfare legalisation? Free range etc doesn't matter?

Of course all halal meat should be labelled as such so people have a choice.

An easy way to avoid of you are that against it but still wish to eat meat is to eat pork products.

We should be able to challenge something we don’t agree with even if there may be other aspects of our lives where we don’t always do the right thing. For example, I do think a meat eater is fine to challenge halal practices and I’m a vegetarian. You have to start somewhere on a journey and all these calls of hypocrisy are weird.

This is what happens at a slaughter house near me. The process is exactly the same as for non halal meat except for the prayer.

It will soon come to a point where we will all walk around silent because just saying one sentence wrong is likely to offend someone, somewhow. My friend was being interviewed by 2 ladies yesterday and one mentioned there was a granny annexe, one of the ladies interviewing looked at the other and said “ I don’t think you can use that term now”. So I’m wondering how anyone would find that offensive.
What sad times we live in. 🥺

I fond it offensive how people are sooooo determined to do that "white saviour syndrom" thing tbh. So does my DH.
Nothing more insulting then when someone is explaining to you that you should be offended (happened to both of us. He is muslim, I am Eastern european). It's patronising.
You are so determined to see this as "slur on muslims" I don't know why you asked for other opinions. Unless of course you either wanted pat on a back or covertly start a bit of a muslim diss thread.
Dh says they have not insulted muslim, that they have a right to their opinion on the meat like he has a right to turn his nose up at pork including some very traditional foods in places (like mine lol).

Not offensive.

There should be sognx on door or a menu. Same like with everything imho

Signs

Yup. This. Seen it first hand.

Not all halal ‘rules met’ meat is labelled as such. OP probably eats it every day unknowingly.

Most non Muslims are not aware and you only eat it every time you go for a curry if it’s a meat curry.

No vegan would wear leather.

Not offensive it's just fact.

People have different levels of what's acceptable. I'm not anti Muslim at all but I don't agree with the Halal way it's horrific.

Plenty of people have negative opinions on circumcision and thats a religious practice too. Why is that ok and not the slaughter of animals? I think as long as you respect people's right to practice their religion and dont go around criticising their religion, its perfectly ok to have opinions on certain practices. Some religious people have negative opinions of other religions and that is their right too.