Furries in IKEA

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

For all those posters declaring that it is ok because people don't realise they have just been included in sexual fetish, why is this ok because they don't know?

Honestly, do you think a parent telling a child that the male wanking through their clothes just has an itchy penis and dismissing it all is ok?

That that child when they realise they have been lied to by the parent and then realising that they have been used as a sex prop will not feel harmed?

much of it is benign but it's extremely easy for non-benign people to exploit

Yes, exactly. That's not accidental.

I have yet to see a single post on this thread which has explained how dressing up as an animal with no sexual connotations or actions taking place is harmful to anyone else.

It's not that difficult. It does have sexual connotations. There's really nothing else to it. They are literally wearing masks used by people who are into pup play. There's no second guessing required here. It's every bit as much a symbol of a kink as if they walked around wearing gimp suits.

OK, so, a paedophile takes my child's fully clothed images from Instagram. They take it to their forum where they make up lives for children and do whatever it is they do.

I don't know they've done it. My child doesn't know. Neither of us are ever harmed by it. Is that OK? Are we all fine with that?

Men as a general rule of thumb, pose a danger to women. And since trandeomen are men, so do they hence sex only spaces.

Depends how far it goes. Some Scene, Animee, even Goth has a lot of leather/ chains and a fetish 'look'. Id be ok with catsuits (rubber latex pvc leather) OK, fishnets, short skirt, chains etc
Gimp on a leash with a bust plug.....not so much.

Creating csam is illegal

people have always got their thrills sexually in public for most that is the thrill of not getting caught

this is a step beyond that and agree with pp totally self indulgence and entitlement and this so done to get sexual kicks why pretend it isn’t

the tails are probably butt plugs

So you are ok to be part of the person's fetish? Good to know. But many of us are not.

From a security point of view it's strange that they let people wear full face masks in shops.

I do but he's 18 so I can't police everything he does.

And getting rather fed up of people saying 'noone is harmed' because t personally doesnt bother them. You do not have the right to give up consent for others. Thats entitled and eather disturbing imo. I would be seriously upset, it would worsen my ptsd.its gross.

It’s grown men co-opting non consenting adults and children into their fantasies again.

I mean nudism isn’t sexual (apparently) are we now ok with naked people queuing up for meAtballs?

all these things are slippery slopes. Whatever the intentions here it now says the door is open for fetishests to use IKEA as a0place to incorporate non- consenting adults and children into their sex lives, all they have to say is, it’s non-sexual

its never just….

But no one knows, so where's the harm etc. etc.

No-one has to get consent for being seen in public unless they are actually exposing themselves. So the issue of giving up consent simply does not arise.

Yes. I hear you sillybilly.

It is the same people who then dismiss the distress that some women and girls feel with males being in their spaces because they don't feel it and no one has ever told them about their distress and no one acts distressed.

Yet, I know several women who have been sexually abused who choose to now self-exclude from going to spaces that may mean they encounter a male in a space where they are vulnerable.

But it is the same thing. 'No one was harmed that 'I' can see, therefore no one was harmed!'

Hang on, if I'm upskirted but don't realise, that's ok right?
If I'm filmed in the changing rooms, of having a massage, that's ok because I don't know about it?
If a bloke is getting his jollies off by walking past me stark bollock naked, but I'm significantly visually impaired, that's ok?

Ridiculous. Men wearing fetish gear in public are not ok. Even if some of the public don't recognise the fetish.

I agree - and even if these particular individuals aren't fetishists, it normalises this sort of behaviour - and then what happens is that the boundaries are pushed inch by inch until we end up with this sort of obscene horror:

www.spiked-online.com/2021/07/13/the-rainbow-dildo-butt-monkey-is-no-laughing-matter/

Of course the apologists come out with 'It's just a bit of fun" "Monkeys have bums/ willies - you'd see worse at the zoo" etc, but it isn't a "bit of fun" - it is blurring the boundaries which keep our children safe.

This is disgusting. I’m in that IKEA with my kids all the time. Wearing fetish gear in public should be an offence. Someone else can fight out the nuances of what constitutes fetish gear, but this one is pretty damn clear.

This ⬆

If someone wishes to surrender their own rights, that's their business - but they don't have any right to surrender mine, or my children's or anyone else's but their own.

Exposing your fetish to children seems to be a fetish in itself. We need to get past this idea of kink shaming is wrong and oppressive. If it involves children or vulnerable people or exposing the general public to details of your sex life then you should be shamed.

We are living in a world where its more acceptable for men tomparade around in fetish gear than it is for a woman to.pop to the shop in pyjamas.

I'd laugh but it's really not that funny

If they went past me and my DC in their dog masks and leads i'd be prepared to call them dirty perverts and to piss off out of my children's sight. Loudly. And then find a member of staff. And then write a letter!

Lord i wouldn't let this go unchallenged.

And before anyone says anything about swearing in front of my kids - they've heard me swear. It's very rare. But there's a time and a place and this would enrage me!

I'm still seeing a lot of frilly coy whataboutery look-over-there wordclouds from people who are otherwise very clear that this is all luvverly and only silly prudes would overreact - and yet despite being very clear they haven't actually clarified that they believe it is perfectly fine for men to get sexual thrills from non-consenting members of the public.

And if i had a handy bucket of water i'd throw that over them as well!