Furries in IKEA

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

They have explicitly said they are doing this for sexual gratification and to bring children into a sexual fantasy,

Thats not querying things, it’s making an assumption, one based on pre existing bias

Do you think the bias is because the person is claiming to be trans OR could it be because the prosthetics they have chosen to wear ARE highly sexualised given that they sport permanently erect nipples?

Yet you’re presuming lack of consent.

Weird that

I'm saying you can't know.

The bias is clearly due to them being trans, it’s pretty evident based on what those posters have said on this thread (and in some cases other threads, advanced search is handy in cases like this)

You think they’re highly sexualised, not everyone will, some people don’t view breasts as sexual ‘objects’ and actually find it offensive people do.

Most breast plates have erected nipples, yes they could wear those flowers, but in this particular case with the angst around their firing, it’s just as likely they’re doing this for shock factor than to engage children in a sexual fetish.

The fact some posters jump straight to fetish and inappropriate based on their pre existing bias is an issue.

Seeing the worst in every situation isn’t ideal

And I’m saying exactly, so why can you assume non consent yet people assuming consent isn’t ok?

How do you define ‘consent’ and ‘non consent’?

I dread to think where the wagging tails were lodged!

The trans identification isn't the most immediately noticeable thing about that story.

It's the humongous comedy jugs jangling down to waist-level that (unsurprisingly) tend to capture people's immediate attention.

Ask @ArabellaScott

she seems to think people need to consent to being in others thoughts.

Seeing the worst in every situation isn’t ideal

Not seeing red flags where they exist isn't ideal either.

Of all of the prosthetic breasts they could have chosen! Whatever the motive they ARE highly sexualised and they are not appropriate around children. The fact that in Canada a persons rights to wear what they want usurp the rights of children to be protected from inappropriate dress (and those prosthetic breasts are dress no matter the motives of the wearer) is completely insane.

Blurring the boundaries leads to bad laws.

Not what I asked. I asked how you define ‘consent’ and ‘non consent’.

I’d sooner be ‘non PC’ than dressed up as a dog being walked on a lead 😆 Each to their own, they’re not hurting anyone, but when my kids ask wtf are those people doing, I absolutely will tell them the truth: They’re weirdos.

So the sexual intercourse is the only problem? It's all fine until then?

But what if you can't tell I'm having sex? What if I just look like I'm sitting on my boyfriend's lap on the bench outside?

How on earth do you police young and limber people like myself? Are you going to make any couple on the bench get up? Are you going to institute morality police who enforce distancing between people of the opposite sex?

The issue is that behaving like this is not normal behaviour in public spaces it is behaviour in a family environment which includes children.

whether or not these individuals have a sexual intent is largely irrelevant, it is an enactment of something which will be seen by the majority as a sexual fetish. It will involve adults having to explain the situation to young children. It is a situation where a very small minority will make the vast majority uncomfortable. There is a level of entitlement here by 3people who think their wants outweigh everyone else’s.

There is no reason to go to IKEA like this really. Society operates on the basis that some things are and aren’t acceptable in certain environments. People make choices based on these unwritten rules. Social norms dictate that this kind of behaviour is not acceptable.

If you can actually truly look like you’re just sitting there when you’re actually having sex, you must be something blander than vanilla 😂

There are many items of of clothing that have crossed over from fetish scenes to the mainstream:

punk clothing
emo clothing
some elements of goth
pvc trousers
etc.

I define consent as to give permission for something to happen to me.

Why do you ask? As it’s not relevant to the post chain you jumped into

Vanilla is a very complex flavour, so not difficult.

Anyway, as elf said, Groups of people can be engaging in sexual behaviour around you all the time.

There is thus no problem with my proposal.

P.S. Unenergetic Sex Lives are Sex Lives.

I see. How do I give permission for something to happen to me?

Again, you’ve said the intent is irrelevant, yet other posters are saying intent is the defining factor here on what makes this not ok.

People are responding to what others post, when those on your side of this debate can’t even decide amongst themselves what’s the issue then tbh what’s the point

Verbally or through cues.

Again, why do you ask?

My son has to sit next to a couple of them at school
he is totally uncomfortable but has no choice he is 15

A couple of who? People in pup play outfits, or something else?

But does being confronted with a clown cause distress? Has the distressed person given consent? Not that different.

How are you defining ‘cues’?