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Furries in IKEA

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user19888891 · 16/01/2023 07:17

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-ikea-shoppers-confused-after-25983306?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t appropriate? Surely it’s no more appropriate to be naked in public than to walk around dresses up for a sex game? Do IKEA have a responsibility to safeguard their young guests?

I was particularly taken aback by this paragraph ;
‘Although many think it is a sexual fetish more often than not dressing up like animals is a fun escape for a community of people who enjoy expressing themselves in this way.’
is this true? I’ve never heard of this being done in a non sexual manner

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MeinKraft · 16/01/2023 12:14

'It doesn’t really matter as long as long as it’s not aggressive, intimidating or demanding an active involvement from a stranger.'

They are forcing people to take an active part, actively being a bystander in their fantasy of walking through Ikea in fetish gear.

AgathaAllAlong · 16/01/2023 12:15

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:06

Exactly - every time anyone (man or woman) finds someone visually sexually desirable they are involving a stranger in their sexual feelings.

It doesn’t really matter as long as long as it’s not aggressive, intimidating or demanding an active involvement from a stranger.

I find many of the comments here tediously prudish. Life’s full of weird shit.

Ok, so what's wrong then with actually having sex in front of children? That is also not 'aggressive, intimidating or demanding an active involvement'.

I used to know one of these guys, he used to go around saying that this aspect of his life wasn't any more a kink than life in general is sexual. It took me way too long for the penny to drop: that for most people, life in general is not sexual ir kinky. Other people, consenting people, people who want to have sex with you, those parts of life are sexual. There is something deeply wrong with seeing the entire world as there for your sexual gratification.

Helleofabore · 16/01/2023 12:16

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:06

Exactly - every time anyone (man or woman) finds someone visually sexually desirable they are involving a stranger in their sexual feelings.

It doesn’t really matter as long as long as it’s not aggressive, intimidating or demanding an active involvement from a stranger.

I find many of the comments here tediously prudish. Life’s full of weird shit.

Yes, we understand completely from your other posts that you have little knowledge or understanding of safeguarding for children or young people.

Your equivalence is also flawed from the beginning.

Exactly - every time anyone (man or woman) finds someone visually sexually desirable they are involving a stranger in their sexual feelings.

This is a case of exhibitionists using children and adults in their sexual fetish in a public place. If you are fine with being part of someone else's sexual fetish being publicly performed without consent, that says all anyone needs to know about your own sexual boundaries.

Are you also quite ok for a male to publicly masturbate through their clothes in front of everyone? If not, why do you think this is different?

Helleofabore · 16/01/2023 12:17

MeinKraft · 16/01/2023 12:14

'It doesn’t really matter as long as long as it’s not aggressive, intimidating or demanding an active involvement from a stranger.'

They are forcing people to take an active part, actively being a bystander in their fantasy of walking through Ikea in fetish gear.

It cannot be said often enough. I think it needs to pinned to the top of each page.

Doormatnomore · 16/01/2023 12:17

Butchyrestingface · 16/01/2023 12:04

And there was me thinking, "Edinburgh? Shirley knot. Now Glasgow I'd believe..." Wink

Anyways, I briefly knew a therianthrope back in the day.

Setting yourself on fire while tap dancing wouldn’t get a raised eyebrow most of the time in Edinburgh. It’s probably what I’m most proud of in my hometown. Chuggers are like amateur hour.

but yeah they should have been asked to leave or dress more appropriately by staff while the members of the public carried on ignoring them. Unfortunately they are probably loving the article and this thread.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 12:19

tediously prudish.

Of course ad homs are directed at anyone complaining about adult males wearing fetish gear out to a family restaurant. Another predictable red flag.

Have we had 'pearl clutching' yet?

lifeturnsonadime · 16/01/2023 12:20

The law has clear lines that shouldn't/can't be crossed

This is completely untrue as evidenced by the dildo but monkey at drag queen story time at a children's library.

sillybillyboo1 · 16/01/2023 12:20

Doormatnomore · 16/01/2023 12:17

Setting yourself on fire while tap dancing wouldn’t get a raised eyebrow most of the time in Edinburgh. It’s probably what I’m most proud of in my hometown. Chuggers are like amateur hour.

but yeah they should have been asked to leave or dress more appropriately by staff while the members of the public carried on ignoring them. Unfortunately they are probably loving the article and this thread.

Thats probably true isn't it. They aren't stupid they know exactly what it does and they get something from it.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 12:21

There is something deeply wrong with seeing the entire world as there for your sexual gratification.

Yes. And getting off on non-consensual participation is particularly grim.

Emotionalsupportviper · 16/01/2023 12:23

Helleofabore · 16/01/2023 11:54

Emotionalsupportviper

I noticed that no posters have said anything about the Rainbow dildo butt monkey after I posted the link before. Nor the paedophile leading the teen around Glasgow in a gimp suit.

I figured it was just too uncomfortable to see that already there are reported instances of where this behaviour leads when it is minimised by 'there is no harm', 'it is just a joke', or telling children that it is just 'dressing up'.

Apologies - I just skimmed early posts and didn't realise that you'd posted a link to that abomination.

Patineur · 16/01/2023 12:24

Kucinghitam · 16/01/2023 12:12

To any undecided lurkers: Do you think it is silly, hysterical, prudish, etc, to object to men getting sexual thrills from non-consenting people?

If these men were walking around with visible erections, maybe. Or if they were wearing something that, say, was obviously sexual or which glamourised violence. But if they get some sort of enjoyment from dressing up stupidly and walking through a store I happen to be in, frankly I'm going to be unaware of it and it wouldn't occur to me to object, any more than I object if I walk through, say, a Christmas display and see someone dressed up as a polar bear. That may well be naive of me but so be it.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:25

BadNomad · 16/01/2023 12:10

So are you fine with paedophiles getting off to the presence of children as long as no one is physically getting hurt?

Define what you mean by “getting off”

Emotionalsupportviper · 16/01/2023 12:25

But yes, @Helleofabore - significant that they are silent about this,

I don't like this "Drag Queen Story Time" stuff in libraries, either. Over-sexualised stereotypes of women (but at the same time obviously me), many of them in totally inappropriate clothing - it's just a way of taking down the safety wall brick by brick.

Rabbitheadlights · 16/01/2023 12:26

Give these weirdos a label "furries" etc and that's where the problems start in my opinion. It legitimises it almost and that's why we have people marrying duvets etc, They were all just known as weirdos when I was a kid ... and will continue to be

LookingForTipsNotPuns · 16/01/2023 12:27

Oh leave off and get a fucking life will you. They harmed no one.

Truckinghell · 16/01/2023 12:28

@Patineur what they were wearing was obviously sexual to those who are aware of its obviously sexual connotations, so there has to be an understanding that some people will be aware of it and uncomfortable?

BordoisAgain · 16/01/2023 12:28

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:25

Define what you mean by “getting off”

Oh dear...

DarkShade · 16/01/2023 12:28

Rabbitheadlights · 16/01/2023 12:26

Give these weirdos a label "furries" etc and that's where the problems start in my opinion. It legitimises it almost and that's why we have people marrying duvets etc, They were all just known as weirdos when I was a kid ... and will continue to be

These guys are not furries!

DarkShade · 16/01/2023 12:30

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:25

Define what you mean by “getting off”

Ok, then. It's actually good to get out in the open that you are fine with peadophiles. Helps contextualise your comments for those skimming.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:30

I once went to an llegal warehouse rave. Everyone, including me, was very high on MDMA. On the dancefloor a furry who was in attendance unzipped their costume and a random stranger got inside it with them and it was zipped up again. Not sexual, just for fun. It was hilarious.

fairgame84 · 16/01/2023 12:31

tommika · 16/01/2023 11:56

As you’ve originally said there’s the ‘good side’ and as pointed out by other posters there is the kinky side, but more relevant is as highlighted by Lang that predators will exploit these areas

There are furry & cosplay clubs / societies around the country, I go to a few comicons and a particular cosplay society is prevalent at them. There are quite a few furries, I don’t know if they are in that society or have their own groups - but all tend to be friends and associate with each other

That society (appears to be) young cosplayers running their own society for their own benefit, and the event organisers are very hot on what is and isn’t acceptable at their events
There are a few online groups that flag up warnings and particularly flag up events/organisers that are more ‘suspicious’

As you say, you only have limited influence on an 18 year old, but keep engaged and aware where possible

Is he a member of a group, and can you see the range of people associated with it?

No he's not in a group. He doesn't socialise at all, he looks at stuff on YouTube. He asked to go to furry con but it was too far away and I was heavily pregnant at the time so we didn't go. He doesn't dress up or anything. He basically has an obsession with Lucario from pokemon and it stems from that.
He's told me that there's groups that are sexual but that he's not into that side of it. I find it a bit odd tbh but as long as it's not harming him or anyone else he's free to like what he likes.

BordoisAgain · 16/01/2023 12:31

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:30

I once went to an llegal warehouse rave. Everyone, including me, was very high on MDMA. On the dancefloor a furry who was in attendance unzipped their costume and a random stranger got inside it with them and it was zipped up again. Not sexual, just for fun. It was hilarious.

Cool story bro

ancientgran · 16/01/2023 12:31

Aprilx · 16/01/2023 09:20

It wouldn’t occur to me that it was anything to do with sec or a fetish. I would think they were trying to be funny or it was a dare or a bet.

Yes a dare or as GS says "Consequences" so if you miss an open goal you get a "consequence" which is usually going out and doing something stupid.

I suppose it depends how your mind works.

EastLondonObserver · 16/01/2023 12:33

DarkShade · 16/01/2023 12:30

Ok, then. It's actually good to get out in the open that you are fine with peadophiles. Helps contextualise your comments for those skimming.

If you can’t define the terms of your argument, you don’t have one.

You’re just dog whistling.

bellswithwhistles · 16/01/2023 12:33

Quite gobsmacked they were allowed to. Id have had them removed immediately.

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