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Original poster

To be appalled that the Bbc are debating the right to strike

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Letshaveablackcelebration22 · 15/01/2023 11:02

The bbc are currently debating, on one of their sickly Sunday morning shows if people have the right to strike.

Anyone in a decent society has the right to withdraw their Labour - might be good to take a look at the countries that don’t have the right to strike. It’s a sign of a democratic society that you can withdraw your labour.

Aibu to think that there shouldn’t even be a debate about the ‘right’ to strike. Of course I would expect nothing less from the fascists in waiting that are the current Tory party though.

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Letshaveablackcelebration22 · 15/01/2023 11:05

And the fact that the bbc are debating it feels like a way to try and make it acceptable and sanitised as a view

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Coffeellama · 15/01/2023 11:05

There’s nothing wrong with being able to discuss things. Plus you’ve basically opened the exact same debate right here for thousands of people to see and participate in if they wish.

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Letshaveablackcelebration22 · 15/01/2023 11:06

@Coffeellama i’m not debating the right to strike. I am debating why it’s being discussed on mainstream TV - there should be no debate in a democratic society

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IamSamantha · 15/01/2023 11:07

Everyone has differing opinions on this and open debate is never a bad thing if respectful done. It also gives people who are undecided an opportunity to gain more insight from all perspectives and form their own opinion.

Coffeellama · 15/01/2023 11:08

there should be no debate in a democratic society

Not sure you are fully understanding what democracy means here.

And you are inviting debate on the subject, this is AIBU. If you just wanted to state your objection without debate you could have put in a complaint to the BBC

Theluggage15 · 15/01/2023 11:08

‘There should be no debate in a democratic society!’ Hilarious. In a democratic society you should be able to debate anything.

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Letshaveablackcelebration22 · 15/01/2023 11:09

Suppression of Labour rights is an early sign of fascism

To be appalled that the Bbc are debating the right to strike
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TeenDivided · 15/01/2023 11:10

'There should be no debate in a democratic society'

Ha ha. Very funny.

Everything should be able to be debated. You can't have sacred cows. What was that other thing with #nobebate ...

IDontCareMatthew · 15/01/2023 11:10

Appalled op?? Really?

ApolloandDaphne · 15/01/2023 11:10

Debates are a great way to see both sides of an argument to allow people to make their mind up on an issue. There are pros and cons for striking and these should be discussed in the open.

Theluggage15 · 15/01/2023 11:11

Suppressing debate is fascism. You sound rather silly. And you do know the police and armed forces aren’t allowed to strike?

MarshaBradyo · 15/01/2023 11:11

Letshaveablackcelebration22 · 15/01/2023 11:06

@Coffeellama i’m not debating the right to strike. I am debating why it’s being discussed on mainstream TV - there should be no debate in a democratic society

there should be no debate in a democratic society

This is problematic, or course you need to allow debate in a democratic society.

TeenDivided · 15/01/2023 11:11

You can debate pros and cons of striking. Probably the answer will come down on the side of striking.

Coffeellama · 15/01/2023 11:12

That poster is irrelevant to your point here, plus it lists controlling mass media, refusing to allow debates is exactly what you want, which according to your poster is fascist.

Moomoomeemee · 15/01/2023 11:12

Yabu. Of course it should be debated

Hanschenklein · 15/01/2023 11:12

IamSamantha · 15/01/2023 11:07

Everyone has differing opinions on this and open debate is never a bad thing if respectful done. It also gives people who are undecided an opportunity to gain more insight from all perspectives and form their own opinion.

This is MN. No one gains insight from other perspectives 😂 I don't think I've ever witnessed anyone on here change their mind even after very reasoned debate from people who know what they are talking about be it Brexit, NHS or the pandemic.

NoSquirrels · 15/01/2023 11:13

Freedom of speech, innit, OP. Fuck with that at your peril.

TrodOnLegoAgain · 15/01/2023 11:13

The government is trying to limit the right to strike. Therefore it seems entirely appropriate to debate the question. I think the Left's failure to make arguments for its positions over the last decade or so, just working on the basis that "all right-thinking people think X", has been part of what's got us into the current mess. You can't assume that everyone agrees with you. You have to make the arguments.

Moomoomeemee · 15/01/2023 11:13

TrodOnLegoAgain · 15/01/2023 11:13

The government is trying to limit the right to strike. Therefore it seems entirely appropriate to debate the question. I think the Left's failure to make arguments for its positions over the last decade or so, just working on the basis that "all right-thinking people think X", has been part of what's got us into the current mess. You can't assume that everyone agrees with you. You have to make the arguments.

Exactly

VioletLemon · 15/01/2023 11:14

Ditto. BBC Question Time has been easing this rhetoric in recently too around the right to strike and if we should have it or not. Seem complicit in dismantling our rights in many areas of society, allowing the NHS to break down, so it can be 'saved' by full privitisation. As pp says it would help clarity if they reported on the countries who don't have the right to strike. Its so dissapointing. I resent the licence fee so much but use the iPlayer alot and read that any live TV is now part of the licence fee, not just BBC and apparently it is a criminal offence not to pay if you watch live TV.

BitOutOfPractice · 15/01/2023 11:14

I 100% with you op. This is just a given. I mean what’ll they “debate” next. Is it ok to be a misogynist? Is violence ever acceptable? No! Some things are inviolate and the right to withdraw your labour is one of them.

NellietheElephantpackedhertrunks · 15/01/2023 11:14

Striking literally isn’t an option in my job (and I suspect many others), we would simply be fired.

PoIIyPandemonium · 15/01/2023 11:15

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Sirzy · 15/01/2023 11:15

so you want to suppress debate then? Is that really healthy?

i don’t agree with withdrawing the right to strike any more than I agree with withdrawing the right to freedom of speech (when not offensive etc etc)

donquixotedelamancha · 15/01/2023 11:17

The democratically elected government are severely limiting the right to strike. Just because you and I think something is a fundamental right doesn't mean everyone agrees.

Progress in a civilised society is made through discussion and persuasion. Your views are anti-democratic.

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