Asked to move from relatives house

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I've been living in a relatives house for more than 2 years. When I moved in the relative was in a care home but the person who had POA for them agreed for me to move in and said it was ok for a short time and that I didn't have to pay rent.

Now the house owner died and so did the POA. The executors want me to move out.

I don't have anywhere to go, can they evict me?

How can you have a tenancy agreement if you’re not charged rent?

The tenancy agreement was with the POA. It ended when the grandmother died.

The largest growing group of homeless people is women in their early 50's. They are disproportionally affected by divorce and due to caring duties one way or another when the kids leave home they are screwed. All the nasty comments on here about this ladies predicament clearly demonstrate peoples attitude that the inheritance ie free money due should be protected above the housing needs of a fellow human. What a story state this world is in.

And none of that applies to the OP, who was living in their grandmother's house, supposedly for a short period of time, while the grandmother was in a care home. The title says explicitly "relative's" house.

The op has had 2 years to find a place, it is not her house in the first place

If your children are grown up, do they have their own houses and would it be possible for you to stay with one of them whilst you sort yourself out?

Yes, what meanies. She’s been living rent free for two years, they should just give her the house. #bekind.

Can’t believe you’ve said your Grandmother wasn’t a nice person after you’ve had over 2 years living for free in her house!

Go to CAB, you may be able to negotiate a transitionary period whereby you’re allowed to stay in the house maybe a few months until you get somewhere else.

Have a look at this benefits calculator to see if you are missing out on anything and what help you may get when you move into a rental. If you don’t have savings that’s actually a good thing because you may be entitled to more benefits alongside your work income.

Things will get sorted, just take action to work it all out. I’m sorry your Grandmothers/POA death has led to you needing to move out. But you must realise the situation was only meant to be for “a short period” and not it is entirely unreasonable for you to prevent her beneficiaries from having their inheritance - particularly when house prices are falling. The longer you delay the sale the more likely you are going to create further problems for yourself with, presumably, your relatives.

Bite the bullet. Take responsibility for your own life and seek help to do this. Wishing you all the best for this new chapter.

Your comments speak volumes about you, awful awful people.

Mil had this type of thing.

Her father died and she was left the house (I don’t think he updated his will as they had been estranged for years when he died)
When she was told about the house she went to see it and found he had moved in his gf and her teenage children.

The children might or might not be relevant but they were allowed to stay and the gf was given use of the house until her death.

MIL has now died and I presume the gf is in residence.

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Not so much' be kind' as 'don' t be a complete dick'.

I'm not going to have a go at you OP because potential homelessness is very frightening for anyone, but all your focus now has to be on finding a solution rather than avoiding eviction, because ultimately you won't be able to stay there.

Do you know the executors? If you are honest and clear that you are very focused on moving out, would they give you some time? Does your local authority have a tenancy deposit scheme? Are you over 55 (LA housing in some areas has more availability of such accommodation)? Do you have any support with your MH issues and could that be used to add weight to a housing application?

These aren't questions for you to answer but things to think about if you haven't already.

Agree with pp - the 'be kind,' 'ignore the posters who are being mean' brigade conveniently ignore the fact that the OP is being the opposite of kind. She's being selfish and entitled.

Who knows what the situation is with the beneficiaries anyway? Maybe they have mental health issues. Maybe they're slogging themselves in tough jobs or paying huge amounts in rent or mortgage and need the money from the house sale.

And frankly even if the beneficiaries are millionaires with perfect health - it's irrelevant! The deceased's estate belongs to them. The executors have a duty to carry out the actions of the will - a legal duty. And if the OP incurs legal costs by dragging her heels then she will be liable.

Whether anyone feels sorry for the OP, or whether they think she's an entitled freeloader is not really the point- it's not her house, the estate belongs to those who have inherited it.

I think you need to leave gracefully. They have every right to sell the house. Maybe they need the money?

Of course you have to move out. Executors will likely want to sell it / let it out / live in it themselves.

Yes they probably can, but please, please, please contact Shelter for advice about your specific situation.

If you're going to need council or social housing, depending on your area, you may have to stay put until you are formally evicted to stand any chance of getting somewhere.

I'd be inclined to stop paying the bills for the house and save that money towards a deposit. When you do have to go, the outstanding bills can be paid from your Grandma's estate.

This gets more batshit.

You're encouraging the op to wrack up bills (I assume electricity, gas, council tax, water, telecoms) when the house is not empty then NOT pay? And for grandma's estate beneficiaries to pay it?

Wtf?!

She's already had £££s of free rent which is dodgy as fuck since 2 years of no rent collection is most definitely NOT to the benefit of grandma... Which is what POA is intended for.

Op would be lucky to walk away and hope that the estate beneficiaries don't question any of this further...

Your grandmother isn't a nice person? But let you live two years rent free in her home?

What kind of relationship do you have with your family. Could they help you to get back on your feet, not financially but just to help support and keep you going through the process of getting advice / finding a new home? If you were staying in your grandparents home are your parents still around? Could you stay with them a little while and make a plan with them?

Can the POA give you written notice to show the council? I don't know how council and HA renting works but I know the full rent in a two bed very nice HA flat in a nice area was less than £500 per month whilst the equivalent on market rate would be nearly £1k more. I think but am prepared to be corrected that if you can go the council or HA route they would have officers who can help put you in the right direction for HB/ UC if income low. You could also see if there is a welfare rights officer or team to check your benefit status or CAB.

You said renting the house was not an option, would you have been in a financial position to rent it and can you rent your own place even just a studio? I don't know how old you are but if over 55 is there accommodation in the area specifically for people over this age that might be cheaper than market rent.

If the bills are in the OP's name they are responsible for paying them. If the OP stops paying them out of spite, they - not the executors - will be the one to suffer the consequences.

@Trainspotted nobody is suggesting that OP be turfed onto the streets.

If they are a single person with disabilities, even if they work, there is a lot of financial help available. They just need to access support at CAB and get them to help fill out some forms. If the situation is as she says, there should not be any major issue.

Most executors would be amenable to a tenant needing a few months to sort things out and indeed their should be a period of notice built into the rental agreement.

The OP has been living for a prolonged period for free which suited both parties but that has now come to an end.

People should not be put through inconvenience and have their assets withheld from them, because OP thinks they should get everything for free.

YABU. You’ve been living rent free for two years, saved no money, and are now annoyed they want you out (for good reason)?

Of course they can’t evict you. You aren’t entitled to stay in someone else’s house for free for as long as you want.

I would think the shelter charity, cab and the council would be able to help in some way. The executors will have to liquidate the assets in order to fulfil the bequests in the will. You're being made unintentionally homeless. The dog will make it harder to rent in the private sector . Glad to see you've recovered enough to work and I hope you can sees this as a step forward to independence.

This. Whilst I have empathy for the OP, the fact is she's been living in a house that is not hers rent free for two years. Thats a break that most of us have never had.

Its not unreasonable of them to ask her to move out (with an appropriate notice period ) and to find alternative accommodation. OP- get some advice from the CAB and start looking into your options/benefits etc. You cannot just expect to live there rent free forever and you had to have known this day would come eventually so start now by researching what you are entitled to and where you could go. But expecting to carry on this arrangement indefinitely now is wholly unreasonable.