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Asked to move from relatives house

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OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:32

I've been living in a relatives house for more than 2 years. When I moved in the relative was in a care home but the person who had POA for them agreed for me to move in and said it was ok for a short time and that I didn't have to pay rent.

Now the house owner died and so did the POA. The executors want me to move out.

I don't have anywhere to go, can they evict me?

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CovertImage · 14/01/2023 19:36

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TestingTestingWonTooFree · 14/01/2023 19:39

You can go and see Shelter to ask for advice. It’s unrealistic to think you can live there long term if that’s not what the beneficiaries of the will want.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 14/01/2023 19:49

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An ableist shit that is defending an elderly person in a care home who was being taken advantage of. I’m ok with that.

Andypandy799 · 14/01/2023 19:50

OrangeBlankets · 14/01/2023 09:32

I've been living in a relatives house for more than 2 years. When I moved in the relative was in a care home but the person who had POA for them agreed for me to move in and said it was ok for a short time and that I didn't have to pay rent.

Now the house owner died and so did the POA. The executors want me to move out.

I don't have anywhere to go, can they evict me?

@OrangeBlankets so what do you consider a “said it was ok for a short time”

Youve had a cushy little run but Christ let the people who now own the house sel it and enjoy there inheritance. I’d be pissed right off if I was the executor of the will. How self entitled some people are is baffling 🤦‍♂️ 🤬

Andypandy799 · 14/01/2023 19:52

@CovertImage what does my opinion make me then?

PinkSyCo · 14/01/2023 22:03

Blimey OP where’s your pride? You can’t leach off someone you didn’t even like forever. By all means ask if they’d be kind enough to let you stay another month to give you time to save a deposit, but it’s time to stop relying on other people to put a roof over your head now.

HolyZarquonsSingingSeals · 15/01/2023 02:15

You need to start looking for rented accommodation, sharpish. The good news is that you are in employment and, as a single female of mature years, you will probably be seen as a desirable tenant. Expect to have to rehome the dog though.

HollyBerri · 15/01/2023 02:49

Hi. I am guessing you will have to move out but contact CAB or Shelter who can also give advice on rehousing. You may be shoe able to get some support with obtaining social housing if you have a long term health condition.

kateandme · 15/01/2023 03:08

Theluggage15 · 14/01/2023 16:55

Oh yes poor OP. Yawn. Where’s her compassion for bereaved people? She may not give a shit the grandmother has died but the people who own the house might be upset. Not only dealing with a bereavement but an entitled troublemaker as well.

Troublemaker? How Have you come to this conclusion. you know no the situation personally do you?Or have you come to this conclusion simply by reading into to the posts and seeing this hinted at nowhere? The op hasn't even hinted at making trouble she's found yourself in a situation and she's asking for advice. There was a reason she was allowed to stay in this home. She wouldn't be in otherwise would she.
The two can co exist.a grieving family.and someone like op.

kateandme · 15/01/2023 03:12

saltinesandcoffeecups · 14/01/2023 16:48

I can mention that I’m mentally unwell but that doesn’t mean I can rock up to a vacant house and expect to live for free for 2 years.

What I think is cruel is to collude with a family member to cheat a physically unwell grandmother in a care home out of 12-24K of income. And then try to cheat the beneficiaries out of their inheritance.

Wow where were you reading?because your second paragraph hasn't been mentioned at all on here has it?
And she didn't rock up to a vacant house she was told she could live there.

BadNomad · 15/01/2023 03:53

kateandme · 15/01/2023 03:12

Wow where were you reading?because your second paragraph hasn't been mentioned at all on here has it?
And she didn't rock up to a vacant house she was told she could live there.

It's in the OP. The grandmother never gave the OP permission to stay in her house. It was the person responsible for managing the grandmother's finances who told the OP she could move in and not pay rent. That was an abuse of power by the POA. She did not act in the best interests of the grandmother.

VoiceOfCommonSense · 15/01/2023 06:09

Piss off, you’ve been living rent free for 2 years there! You could have saved for your own place in that time. No sympathy..

Truthseeker456 · 15/01/2023 06:34

freyamay74 · 14/01/2023 12:37

The op is effectively robbing the beneficiaries of their legal asset while she plans to play hardball about getting out.

Trying to. She won't succeed as she has no legal right to remain there. The house belongs to other people.

Do some people seriously think #bekind means 'never call out selfish, untitled and unkind behaviour'?!

99% of people have just told it as it is. That's not mean or bitchy. The OP has had a huge leg by living rent free for 2 years (and was quite prepared to freeload off a grandmother she says 'wasn't a nice person!) I guess in the OP's massively entitled mindset, the grandmother 'wasn't nice' because 2 years rent free isn't enough and she now wants the fucking house as well.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up!

This ! Literally can't believe some of the comments saying people are being bitchy. As a society we have lost all common decency. It doesn't matter what the circumstances, not your home, move out.

overwroughtmummy · 15/01/2023 06:50

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whowhatwerewhy · 15/01/2023 07:10

@overwroughtmummy

You need to start your own thread

ClubhouseGift · 15/01/2023 07:31

@overwroughtmummy Your wife is being very unreasonable and selfish.

We were EBF and still breastfeed now at 2 years old. It has never stopped DH from helping in the nights since she was a newborn.

strumpert · 15/01/2023 07:36

Yes they can evict you.

You should have been saving for a deposit for that time.

You should also have been paying rent and the POA should not have let you live for free.

LolaMoon · 15/01/2023 08:32

Truthseeker456 · 15/01/2023 06:34

This ! Literally can't believe some of the comments saying people are being bitchy. As a society we have lost all common decency. It doesn't matter what the circumstances, not your home, move out.

I agree. Trying to stay in a house you don’t own and haven’t paid rent on is not kind or considerate at all.
These people are grieving and now have to deal with this on top. How is that affecting their mental health? I would also argue it’s pretty low to not to pay rent when it’s for a person who is incapacitated and could have used that money to contribute towards nursing home fees. OP says her grandmother wasn’t a nice person but was quite happy to live in her house rent free- is that “kind”?

overwroughtmummy · 15/01/2023 08:48

@ClubhouseGift realise that and thought I had. Unfortunately mumsnet has no “delete post” button for the sleep deprived so I’ll have to wait for a moderator to reply to my request for it to be deleted.

HollyBerri · 15/01/2023 08:55

Wow - people are so horrible. The POA probably let op move in as she is family (grandmothers house) and it’s better than it being stood empty.
without being harsh op they do now need to sell it and settle the estate. Get some advice and move on. Be grateful for the 2 years you have had.

freyamay74 · 15/01/2023 09:14

Only in Mumsnet world is it horrible to point out the truth Grin The house does not belong to the OP, it belongs to the beneficiaries.

I guess for some people, being handed something on a plate - ie: 2 years of living rent free - their sense of entitlement just grows and grows. Anyone decent would realise they've been onto a good thing and would be bloody grateful.

TrashyPanda · 15/01/2023 09:41

HollyBerri · 15/01/2023 08:55

Wow - people are so horrible. The POA probably let op move in as she is family (grandmothers house) and it’s better than it being stood empty.
without being harsh op they do now need to sell it and settle the estate. Get some advice and move on. Be grateful for the 2 years you have had.

The whole point of a financial POA is to manage finances in the best interests of the person who lacks capacity.

letting a relative stay there rent free is not doing this. It is financial abuse. Pure and simple. And that is what the Office of the Public Guardian is there for - to stop vulnerable people being abused.

Florissant · 15/01/2023 10:17

kateandme · 15/01/2023 03:08

Troublemaker? How Have you come to this conclusion. you know no the situation personally do you?Or have you come to this conclusion simply by reading into to the posts and seeing this hinted at nowhere? The op hasn't even hinted at making trouble she's found yourself in a situation and she's asking for advice. There was a reason she was allowed to stay in this home. She wouldn't be in otherwise would she.
The two can co exist.a grieving family.and someone like op.

The OP has stated that, rather than move out after living rent-free for over two years, they will wait to be evicted. This is the path of least resistance for the OP but will cause the most aggravation, stress and cost to the executor(s), who may very well be mourning the death of a family member. And, remember, the OP described their grandmother as "not very nice" or words to that effect. And despite not liking their grandmother very much they seem to know about her financial affairs.

I might not use the term "troublemaker" but there is certainly a wealth of other terms I would use to describe the OP's posts.

Florissant · 15/01/2023 10:21

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Florissant · 15/01/2023 10:22

@LolaMoon - my apologies! I resonded to your post in error. I have asked MN to delete my post.