I'm so embarassed I've had to change my name

[sagacious]

And now I don't know what to write

Its about dh

He wants to me hide it

To ignore it but I can't
People will find out

Hmm I think there is a bit of contradtion between today's "editorial" : "IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM, THE UK IS BECOMING A POLICE STATE
The vigilance of our guardians could destroy the values we seek to protect"

And yesterday's poll:

"Should security services be able to bug Muslim MPs in terror cases?"

Yes - 88%
No - 12%

Momma

'COULD TEENAGE SEX STRIP THE MIDDLE CLASS OF ALL DIGNITY?'

too late

Morning Paper - you're a secret DM reader aren't you? You seem to know an awful lot about it.

I'm sorry you're not amused CWW. You don't need to feel thick in the slightest, really.

My thick point, and my derision, was aimed at the editorial line of the Daily Mail - described very eloquently by many others as 'lesbian asylum seeker stole my babies' higher income tax allowance'.

Not at you.

However, if you do read the DM, you might consider the impact of its rather unpleasant world-view on our culture.

I particularly loathe the way that it presents that world-view as 'simple common sense' and apolitical, when it is no such thing.

cervical cancer, surely momma?

Curlywurlywee, my point is that the Daily Mail encourages racial hatred, fosters corrosive and damaging stereotypes, encourages the abuse of sexual minorities and goads its readers to live in fear of people who are not like them. If we want to live in a tolerant society, where people are not abused on the grounds of their social-economic status, who they fall in love with, or the colour of their skin, then we should find that sort of editorial offensive and - frnakly - morally obscene. A mature and civlised society should not think that the propagation of such messages is in any way right or acceptable.

That is my point.

Curly don't be upset but it should be obvious to any mner that the mners tend towards the tolerant in general and as tolerance is something that the DM is short on, it is not popular here. Read what you want but don't expect your views, if inspired by your newspaper to go unchallenged.

lol @ feminist cancer

oooh they not keen on Ms. Clinton

"Role model? No, Hillary's as shameless as any WAG"

"The dangers for Britain if this poisonous pair triumph"

"The dangers for Britain"
I do so fucking loathe the way they assume that their readership = Britain.

not in my name.

Am off to make badges.

lol 'dangers for britain'

I read the online dm on the sly at work. Thie health articles are scaremongering in the extreme.

They are shocking thoygh and such a nasty, misgynistic editorial tone. They had a picture of Anna Friel coming out of the Ivy yesterday, showing close ups of a tiny, tiny tummy bulge saying she had eaten a lot at dinner

Bastard journalism

Oh stop it!!! Don't give the DM any publicity, you don't want people buying it just for the outrage.(morningpaper!) i stopped reading the DM and sunday mail when the w**ker John Junor compared the sainted, nay Angel Diana princess of wales (his words) with the harridens, who wanted to ban guns after Dunblane (I think it was). Called them Sob-sisters, who had a monopoly of grief (errr...their kids just been shot up). Vile vile vile. He's dead now, TG.

Yes yes
But getting back to the point

Shall I clump him with the shovel and bury him under the patio?

Or clump him with the shovel and bury him under the cherry tree? It will be in bloom soon and I have no wish to disturb the blossom.

Yes, but think of the fertiliser boost it will give the tree- all that manure he's absorbed... As long as you do it soon the tree should be okay for flowering, no?

Don't bury him under the patio, you'll do your back a terrible injury. Can't you put him in the compost heap - he will biodegrade nicely.

no! think of the polluting toxins!

No OBM, I was suggesting she put her DH in the compost, not the Daily Mail.

I can't tell you why my DH buys it, I'm too scared.

oh gosh I am loving this thread and I am even more loving the fact that some people actually read the DM for real - as if it is a reliable source of news!

rock on artichokes, I like your post.

He's not a lesbian

DM headline when Sag's dh is dug up:

'PINKO MUM RUINS PROPERTY PRICES'

MP and Carmenere, I am really shocked that you should believe that my occasionally reading the DM means that I am not tolerant and do not share the liberal view of most MNers. In no way do I advocate the stuff you have written in your posts - I feel absolutely horrified at what you've written and these are not my views. I probably stand accused of not thinking enough about what's written. I don't tend to take these newspapers seriously anyway.

My opinions on this thread are not concerned with supporting the views of the DM but asking you to look at your sometimes overbearing attitudes to others - perhaps people not so intelligent and savvy as you. You are not practising what you are preaching in my opinion. At what point on this thread have I ever said anything that supports what the DM writes and hinted at all that I don't find what you have written about the DM's views deplorable?

I confess I was genuinely, perhaps stupidly unaware of the overall view of the DM.

I am really feeling quite awful about this and it has reinforced my current fears about being not up to scratch after having failed an interview and not being selected for some others - which is not your fault I confess.

Don't any of you think about what your sarcasm can do to people's state of mind? Obviously not.

Donnie - your comment just backs up what I've just said. Who the hell do you think you are casting your judgments on what people do and don't read. Surely that makes you just as bad as the DM. I can't believe you could be so bloody rude.

Oh curlywurly sorry you are feeling fragile.

I think you're right that we aren't being tolerant.

The DM is such a nasty piece of work though. And we should, I think, be aware of the political subtexts in play in everything we read, watch, hear. Why read a paper that, tacitly or overtly, promotes the idea that the maj of us freakoid breastfeeders are pervs, for example?

Anti DM feeling is one of the few intolerances that the tolerant tolerate.

Dear Curlwurly, you are all upset

The Daily Mail is a horrid newspaper. It spreads offensive messages about minority groups. It talks about the awful 'immigrants' and 'council house tenants' and other stereotypes and makes people paranoid about paedophiles on every corner. If you feel horrified at these sorts of messages then you can imagine how horrified lots of people feel when they read the Daily Mail. It is nasty stuff.

No-one is slagging you off on this thread, but yes you might want to think about the messages those sorts of articles instill in people.

This thread is slagging off the Daily Mail. People don't like it. It isn't about you.

I'm sorry that you feel upset about your interview. Don't let that make you feel bad about this thread. It isn't about you, it's about a horrid paper.