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How are we paying to house asylum seekers

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Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 19:50

I saw on the news that the UK is spending several million pounds every day to house asylum seekers in hotels. How are we affording this? Surely we can't carry this on, are there any alternatives?

Sorry if this is incorrect, I only know what I've seen on the news so any further info is welcome

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Parrotid · 14/01/2023 13:32

You know, I’ve noticed that anyone who says “sorry but…” isn’t sorry.

HannibalHeyes · 14/01/2023 13:33

No human beings are illegal.

If you're getting your views from the Daily Heil I wouldn't expect you to understand that though...

BewareTheLibrarians · 14/01/2023 13:37

1980sfookup · 14/01/2023 07:26

Then you should consider opening up your home to a couple of male AS. Maybe make teenagers that are 15 but look a lot older,

Don't let that put you off tho, they probably just aged from the long walk FFS

Yes please! 😉 These teenagers have been through a lot of trauma - not just the reasons why they left their country, but what has happened to them on the journey. Rape happens to boys as well as girls, then there’s the physical injuries some are dealing with too. Fuel burns from the boat are not at all uncommon.

I’ve worked with amazing families who have got through language barriers and cultural differences to give them a warm and safe home, given them fantastic experiences and support them to become independent in the future.

If anyones interested or knows anyone who might be, contacting your local council and asking about fostering unaccompanied asylum seeking children is a great place to start.

Parrotid · 14/01/2023 13:38

Even the Daily Heil isn’t as thick as some of these posters.

HarrietPierce · 14/01/2023 13:46

A child holocaust survivor asks the right wing extremist Braverman not to dehumanise refugees by using words such as invasion and swarm. Braverman's
reaction is shocking. Using the word illegals is also dehumanising.

twitter.com/FreefromTorture/status/1614172335921303554

BewareTheLibrarians · 14/01/2023 13:58

@HarrietPierce Describing Suella Braverman as a right wing extremist is the most accurate thing I’ve seen in this thread. 😁 And given her behaviour towards that holocaust survivor I’d struggle to call her anything I could repeat in polite society.

Her language doesn’t show the scale of the problem with asylum seekers, it shows the scale of the rot within the Conservative Party that she can use dehumanising and inaccurate language with no consequence at all.

LakieLady · 14/01/2023 13:58

if we don’t house them what do you suggest? Send them back to where they are running from?

Plenty of peopole would love that, @Itisbetter . Sadly for them, it would be acting contrray to international law, namely the 1951 UN convention on refugees, which the UK not only agreed to, but played a huge part in drafting.

woodhill · 14/01/2023 13:59

Are they all genuine?

BewareTheLibrarians · 14/01/2023 14:04

@woodhill
Asylum seekers? Government stats suggest 75% of asylum claims are granted successfully, with more granted on appeal. Some countries have close to 100% successful grant rates.

Conservative politicians? Likely a much lower percentage 😉

HarrietPierce · 14/01/2023 14:05

BewareTheLibrarians

"Her language doesn’t show the scale of the problem with asylum seekers, it shows the scale of the rot within the Conservative Party that she can use dehumanising and inaccurate language with no consequence at all."

Absolutely.

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 14:08

woodhill · 14/01/2023 13:59

Are they all genuine?

What, all of these Daily Mail reading posters? I bloody hope not! I’d hate to think there are quite so many bigoted scumbags in the UK.

MarshaBradyo · 14/01/2023 14:09

I’d look at the trafficking issue separately. Acceptance rate appears much lower on that issue alone in other comparable countries

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 14:10

We should totally send Farage to Syria for a year, then afterwards ask him if he thinks Syrian asylum seekers are ‘genuine’.

LakieLady · 14/01/2023 14:11

RobertaFirmino · 13/01/2023 22:46

I can't decide whether I'm grateful for living in the UK, free from war and persecution or ashamed to be from a country full of uncharitable, unsympathetic arseholes like the ones on this thread.

Me too.

I suppose people who feel like this would just stay and suck it up if they were living under a brutal and murderous regime.

Nimbostratus100 · 14/01/2023 14:12

Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 19:50

I saw on the news that the UK is spending several million pounds every day to house asylum seekers in hotels. How are we affording this? Surely we can't carry this on, are there any alternatives?

Sorry if this is incorrect, I only know what I've seen on the news so any further info is welcome

I am sure we are making many millions more in taxes paid by refugees many of whom are highly qualified professionals who have been educated at someone elses expense

Zebedee55 · 14/01/2023 14:12

What they get, plus hotel costs paid (which will vary):

www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

JenniferBooth · 14/01/2023 14:14

They are very happy to use asylum seekers as an income stream though. Some of these companies are doing very nicely out of these temp accomodation rates. Thats also why these hotels are happy to cancel peoples weddings at a moments notice. ££££££

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/01/2023 14:17

ExtraOnions · 13/01/2023 21:18

Maybe we should levy a tax on the arms trade, that make huge profits selling weapons to the regimes these people are fleeing from, in order to pay for the cost of Asylum Seekers and Refugees.

Let’s stop doing Business with countries that abuse human rights

Lets get a process in place to look at claims quicker

Let’s put in place a legal route that allows people to apply for refugee status whilst they are abroad (rather then have them come over in small boats)

Or instead we can use these human beings like political footballs, and blame that for the various ills of this country that were not their making.

Very well said.👏👏👏

SprayedWithDettol · 14/01/2023 14:19

We find the money because it is the bare minimum we can do to help our fellow humans who are living in hell.

namechange4774 · 14/01/2023 14:20

Bloopsie · 13/01/2023 20:16

Some journalist posted on Twitter they get 175 pw personal allowance?

A quick google search will tell you that's complete BS

LakieLady · 14/01/2023 14:23

If we didn't allow them to come they'd soon stop. And before people start bleating - how long is this sustainable?

Hmmmm, how do you propose we stop people, from hundered of countries, thousands of miles away, from making long journeys, sometimes across a continent or two, and then jumping on a boat in France? Trump would suggest building a fence, but it's not really an option when your border is coastal.

What we can do is allow applications for asylum to be made from other countries and process them more quickly.

Of course, when we were in the EU, we could return people to whatever EU country they came from under the "safe country" rule, but we've lost that right now, thanks to Cameron's deranged referendum and those who didn't understand what they were voting for.

TooBigForMyBoots · 14/01/2023 14:27

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 14/01/2023 06:34

A think it must be considerably more than £16 per night, below is a headline from the Daily Mail 6 November 2022.

'Private companies that provide accommodation for asylum seekers have seen profits DOUBLE to £110m in just one year
Private companies providing asylum seeker housing have seen huge profit jump
The three companies are Clearsprings Ready Homes, Serco Ltd and Mears Ltd
Total profits made by the three companies have doubled to £110.5million'

And the £110.5 million is the PROFIT not the actual expenditure that is being paid to them by the Government (Tax Payer)

😳

Thanks for that @TwoLeftSocksWithHoles. What a surprise to find that private companies are profiteering as a result of this Tory government's corruption incompetence.Hmm

BewareTheLibrarians · 14/01/2023 14:27

@woodhill Just so you can see the source, this graph is from the government’s own stats on asylum claims. Link here
www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-december-2021/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

You’ll see on the graph (the x with the % in a grey box) that countries like Syria have a grant rate of 98%, Iran has 85%, Sudan has 92% etc. This is the percentage of applications from that country which the government has decided are genuine asylum claims.

How are we paying to house asylum seekers
woodhill · 14/01/2023 14:29

Thanks

But how is this situation sustainable in the UK

MarshaBradyo · 14/01/2023 14:32

What is the process for the decision?

Does a handler here contact authorities there with a list of questions? Or is it more direct and they speak to friends

Maybe there was an AMA recently, I’d be interested to know how it works

It’s a lot of responsibility to say someone is either at risk of harm or not - what proof do they get