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How are we paying to house asylum seekers

212 replies

Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 19:50

I saw on the news that the UK is spending several million pounds every day to house asylum seekers in hotels. How are we affording this? Surely we can't carry this on, are there any alternatives?

Sorry if this is incorrect, I only know what I've seen on the news so any further info is welcome

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 13/01/2023 23:06

RobertaFirmino · 13/01/2023 22:46

I can't decide whether I'm grateful for living in the UK, free from war and persecution or ashamed to be from a country full of uncharitable, unsympathetic arseholes like the ones on this thread.

I share your feelings.

purpledalmation · 13/01/2023 23:09

Some comes from the overseas budget. Considering we give China money for 'development' this is a good use of it

ghostyslovesheets · 13/01/2023 23:09

EmilyGilmoresSass · 13/01/2023 23:05

They live well in my area. British homeless people lining the streets near me, but the asylum seekers sipping coffee outside hotels with brand new bikes, clothes and always in asda buying tobacco and alcohol. Just saying.

you are comparing cornflakes with deckchairs - British homeless people can claim benefits, apply for housing and work - the reasons why they are homeless are many and complex (additions/trauma/lack of mental health support/lack of post prison support) and nothing to do with people who have no choice being housed in basic conditions.

By all means campaign for better support for people who are homeless but please do NOT think they are homeless because people fleeing war are in their spaces

peachescariad · 13/01/2023 23:09

DD did work for very large medical surgery in SE England up until a day ago...with 3 very well known hotel chains in the town each housing 600 immigrants that the surgery had to register...on-top of their 17000 patients.

All 3 hotels have been trashed beyond recognition...wallpaper ripped off, pictures broken, dining room trashed, rooms furniture trashed, fire hazards with cooking on disposable bbqs in rooms and outside in car park, plumbing blocked...the list goes on.
Sympathy wears thin.

BewareTheLibrarians · 13/01/2023 23:12

@EmilyGilmoresSass If you would like to share a room with a stranger for months, possibly years, have no choice about the food you eat even if it doesn’t meet your dietary requirements, have limited access to legal and medical care and live on £8 a week while being banned from working (and handle people bitching about you daring to drink a coffee outside) then go for it!

The bikes are often donated through a scheme to help asylum seekers get to appointments/keep themselves fit, and clothes are donated. I see a lot of nice, sometimes designer clothes because richer people tend to donate more often.

BewareTheLibrarians · 13/01/2023 23:15

@peachescariad 18,000 asylum seekers in 3 hotels?

BewareTheLibrarians · 13/01/2023 23:16

Sorry, 1,800 I have no control over my fingers at this time of night!

strawberriesarenot · 13/01/2023 23:23

MargotMoon · 13/01/2023 21:09

I don't understand what you mean? Do you suggest we have a worldwide database of (e.g.) passports instead of actual documents?

nope.
as well as.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 13/01/2023 23:31

BewareTheLibrarians · 13/01/2023 23:12

@EmilyGilmoresSass If you would like to share a room with a stranger for months, possibly years, have no choice about the food you eat even if it doesn’t meet your dietary requirements, have limited access to legal and medical care and live on £8 a week while being banned from working (and handle people bitching about you daring to drink a coffee outside) then go for it!

The bikes are often donated through a scheme to help asylum seekers get to appointments/keep themselves fit, and clothes are donated. I see a lot of nice, sometimes designer clothes because richer people tend to donate more often.

I can tell you now they are not living off £8 a week where I am. They have a healthier lifestyle than I do. In and out of coffee shops, in asda buying trolleys full of alcohol and the men chatting up the local women. I am sorry, but I will happily buy the poor homeless people lining the street near my university a food or coffee, despite living on a very, very low income myself. I'm not saying they ALL live like that, but near me they do.

Parrotid · 13/01/2023 23:32

@ghostyslovesheets loving your work. Thankyou for posting facts and common sense.

Parrotid · 13/01/2023 23:34

EmilyGilmoresSass · 13/01/2023 23:31

I can tell you now they are not living off £8 a week where I am. They have a healthier lifestyle than I do. In and out of coffee shops, in asda buying trolleys full of alcohol and the men chatting up the local women. I am sorry, but I will happily buy the poor homeless people lining the street near my university a food or coffee, despite living on a very, very low income myself. I'm not saying they ALL live like that, but near me they do.

How can you be sure who “they” are, @EmilyGilmoresSass? Do you ask to hear stories or simply intuit this knowledge, of their history, status and income?

BewareTheLibrarians · 13/01/2023 23:37

@EmilyGilmoresSass The government regulations state that asylum seekers based in hotels receive £8 a week. They don’t have access to any kind of benefit apart from that £8 a week. So either they’re independently wealthy, or they’re not asylum seekers.

Bingbangbongbash · 14/01/2023 00:45

@peachescariad can you think of reasons why destructive behaviours may come out of people who’ve fled rape, torture, death and everything they’ve ever known and undergone a dangerous and physically taxing journey only to be slung into limbo for years on end? Look how badly lots of British people behave after being born into relative wealth and privilege, with access to safe housing, world class education and financial support.

ForgottenTraditions412 · 14/01/2023 02:13

I think I read this on the news recently

Uk has decreased over seas aid recently by a small percentage, because it is spending so much on asylum seekers that are already in the UK

ForgottenTraditions412 · 14/01/2023 02:32

The UK has a historic reputation for being hospitable to refugees, asylum seekers, people fleeing war etc

Shouldn't we be proud that we are helping ?

You see the stats about how many asylum seekers arrive in other countries like Germany & France etc

sashh · 14/01/2023 04:11

Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 20:11

The local 4 star hotel to me just closed to the public in order to house refugees and I've paid over £100 a night to stay there

The government isn't paying £100 a night, they will have negotiated a price for the entire place.

People have to live somewhere, and when it is single people it makes more sense to put them in a hotel than a flat that a family could move in to.

Peasepuddingbloodycold · 14/01/2023 04:29

Some journalist posted on Twitter they get 175 pw personal allowance?

I am another poster who has worked (volunteering) with asylum seekers and the men I worked with (motel accommodation) got £8 a week.

HollyBerri · 14/01/2023 04:37

1980sfookup · 13/01/2023 21:12

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the system all the accommodation and food needs to be paid for. The OP asked how it's being funded.

If we didn't allow them to come they'd soon stop. And before people start bleating - how long is this sustainable?

And no, I don't care about them - like most people me and mine come first.

You are a delight? Maybe quite a few people on here should spend some time with Asylum Seekers and refugees. First of all find out the difference, learn the facts before spouting off and then get to know first hand the horrors they have faced.
What we would really be complaining about is thd money being made firm it. G4S for example (several MPs/ex MPs have fingers in that pie), make s fortune from housing AS in terrible sun standard accommodation.

Nat6999 · 14/01/2023 05:09

In my city they are being housed in an Ibis & a Holiday Inn, the Ibis is never less than £80 per night & the Holiday Inn will be even more, why don't they take somewhere like Pontins & house them all on site?

watchfulwishes · 14/01/2023 06:07

EmilyGilmoresSass · 13/01/2023 23:31

I can tell you now they are not living off £8 a week where I am. They have a healthier lifestyle than I do. In and out of coffee shops, in asda buying trolleys full of alcohol and the men chatting up the local women. I am sorry, but I will happily buy the poor homeless people lining the street near my university a food or coffee, despite living on a very, very low income myself. I'm not saying they ALL live like that, but near me they do.

Great work of fiction here.

Read the rules on the government website. £8/week.

You are talking out of your arse.

watchfulwishes · 14/01/2023 06:08

Nat6999 · 14/01/2023 05:09

In my city they are being housed in an Ibis & a Holiday Inn, the Ibis is never less than £80 per night & the Holiday Inn will be even more, why don't they take somewhere like Pontins & house them all on site?

Maybe you missed the memo about Britain being a free country (mostly, still) but the government is not going to seize Pontins against the wishes of the company.

Orangepolentacake · 14/01/2023 06:11

ShakespearesBlister · 13/01/2023 20:37

Some people don't tell the truth about where they are from. Some people don't tell the truth about why they need asylum. Some people destroy their documents to prevent the authorities from identifying them and finding out their identity. It can take years to pick the pieces apart and find out who people really are, where they are really from and if they have any right to asylum. Some people will go to extreme lengths to frustrate that process. Hence why we occasionally have 30 year old men with beards in schools mixing with children and claiming to be 15.

🙄And how many of those are there, really?

Orangepolentacake · 14/01/2023 06:13

EmilyGilmoresSass · 13/01/2023 23:31

I can tell you now they are not living off £8 a week where I am. They have a healthier lifestyle than I do. In and out of coffee shops, in asda buying trolleys full of alcohol and the men chatting up the local women. I am sorry, but I will happily buy the poor homeless people lining the street near my university a food or coffee, despite living on a very, very low income myself. I'm not saying they ALL live like that, but near me they do.

Trolleys full of alcohol AND they live a healthier lifestyle than you do??

Namechanger355 · 14/01/2023 06:14

Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 20:12

That's interesting, so are we not allowing refugees to find work in the UK?

refugees aren’t asylum seekers so your question is confused

refugees have successfully claimed asylum

also obviously the government isn’t paying the same rates for the B and B that you paid - they bulk buy