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How are we paying to house asylum seekers

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Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 19:50

I saw on the news that the UK is spending several million pounds every day to house asylum seekers in hotels. How are we affording this? Surely we can't carry this on, are there any alternatives?

Sorry if this is incorrect, I only know what I've seen on the news so any further info is welcome

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 14/01/2023 06:34

daemonologie · 13/01/2023 20:02

It's probably £16 per night B and B's with no cooking facilities. Cooking with a kettle alone. Slotted time to use a kitchen but not let children in with them. Maybe a bit better as this is what is given to families with no recourse to public funds who do not have the benefits of asylum seeking status in big cities.

A think it must be considerably more than £16 per night, below is a headline from the Daily Mail 6 November 2022.

'Private companies that provide accommodation for asylum seekers have seen profits DOUBLE to £110m in just one year
Private companies providing asylum seeker housing have seen huge profit jump
The three companies are Clearsprings Ready Homes, Serco Ltd and Mears Ltd
Total profits made by the three companies have doubled to £110.5million'

And the £110.5 million is the PROFIT not the actual expenditure that is being paid to them by the Government (Tax Payer)

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Squirespot · 14/01/2023 06:50

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles well it just must be try if it's in the Daily Mail 🙄!

Foxywood · 14/01/2023 06:55

Scuttlingherbert · 13/01/2023 20:14

No, they can't work while going through the asylum process (which can take 5 years) and get £30 a week to live on.

But lets be honest - if they're allowed to work and disappear into the black economy they're here for life.
I assume the gov is trying to deter them. Which is a good idea imv.

Foxywood · 14/01/2023 06:58

It's the one thing I'm worried about voting Labour for.

Bingbangbongbash · 14/01/2023 07:07

Don’t be worried about voting labour for that reason. Your standard of living has nothing to do with the amount of help we give asylum seekers. It’s to do with politically motivated choices about austerity - which didn’t change our fiscal debt at all, it just made everyone personally worse off - and unfair distribution of wealth.

One of the greatest propaganda campaigns of modern times has been to get ordinary people to blame the less fortunate (benefits claimants, asylum seekers, the ‘bad’ (brown/black) immigrants) for their lot in life. It’s all bullshit.

Anyone born in the UK in a healthy body has the ability to make something of their life. But if your wages are low and your standard of living is shit, direct your anger where it’s really warranted - inwards at your poor choices, or outwards at the systems that suppress wages and strip public services.

The people fleeing war, torture, rape, persecution and the bombs we sell, are not the ones to blame.

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 07:11

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 14/01/2023 06:34

A think it must be considerably more than £16 per night, below is a headline from the Daily Mail 6 November 2022.

'Private companies that provide accommodation for asylum seekers have seen profits DOUBLE to £110m in just one year
Private companies providing asylum seeker housing have seen huge profit jump
The three companies are Clearsprings Ready Homes, Serco Ltd and Mears Ltd
Total profits made by the three companies have doubled to £110.5million'

And the £110.5 million is the PROFIT not the actual expenditure that is being paid to them by the Government (Tax Payer)

😳

Dear god its in the daily mail! Either what has been stated here as the legal position is untrue, OR THE DAILY MAIL talks bullshit!

Hint - it’s the latter!!!

Put down the daily mail, gain some critical thinking skills, let their brainwashing lies gradually be erased from your mind and you’ll be amazed, amazed I tell you when you are able to see that virtually every story they write is made up shite. made up to make your racist heckles rise. You’ll be so much less of an idiot when you stop reading that utter shite and think it’s true!!!

Squirespot · 14/01/2023 07:14

Foxywood · 14/01/2023 06:58

It's the one thing I'm worried about voting Labour for.

Yeah how dare they care about human lives! Bastards they are!

1980sfookup · 14/01/2023 07:16

HollyBerri · 14/01/2023 04:37

You are a delight? Maybe quite a few people on here should spend some time with Asylum Seekers and refugees. First of all find out the difference, learn the facts before spouting off and then get to know first hand the horrors they have faced.
What we would really be complaining about is thd money being made firm it. G4S for example (several MPs/ex MPs have fingers in that pie), make s fortune from housing AS in terrible sun standard accommodation.

I've just said - I don't care. I don't want to spend any time with asylum seekers and I can't anyway because I'm too busy working full time supporting myself.

Your opinion is yours and mine is mine. Neither of us are wrong -you just don't like my honesty.

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 07:16

There is about a 5% chance that if we don’t give enough weapons to Ukraine Putin will start attacking us. He could even get his mates in China to help out. If you manage to get a dinghy from somewhere, and get to France or Ireland and get houses in terrible conditions with £8 a week to live off, would you want the French and Irish looking at you like you were utter vermin, while muttering smugly about ‘me & mine’???

There are some really scummy people in this world and it isn’t the people that are fleeing war zones.

BabyFour2023 · 14/01/2023 07:18

@BewareTheLibrarians So if asylum seekers are put in social housing, it doesn’t have to be a permanent state - they can move on and the property becomes available again.

Id love to see stats on how often this happens

1980sfookup · 14/01/2023 07:26

ilovesooty · 13/01/2023 23:06

I share your feelings.

Then you should consider opening up your home to a couple of male AS. Maybe make teenagers that are 15 but look a lot older,

Don't let that put you off tho, they probably just aged from the long walk FFS

Bingbangbongbash · 14/01/2023 07:42

@1980sfookup

We don’t need to open up our homes because we live in a country that has welfare provisions, which is a sign of community and civility.

Put down the Daily Heil and go and do something less destructive. Bitterness and selfishness make people angry and alone. Community, love, feeling part of something bigger are all proven to extend life and increase happiness.

woodhill · 14/01/2023 07:48

peachescariad · 13/01/2023 23:09

DD did work for very large medical surgery in SE England up until a day ago...with 3 very well known hotel chains in the town each housing 600 immigrants that the surgery had to register...on-top of their 17000 patients.

All 3 hotels have been trashed beyond recognition...wallpaper ripped off, pictures broken, dining room trashed, rooms furniture trashed, fire hazards with cooking on disposable bbqs in rooms and outside in car park, plumbing blocked...the list goes on.
Sympathy wears thin.

Yes just why would you behave like that especially if you are trying to start a new life and come to a new country

Parrotid · 14/01/2023 07:52

Nat6999 · 14/01/2023 05:09

In my city they are being housed in an Ibis & a Holiday Inn, the Ibis is never less than £80 per night & the Holiday Inn will be even more, why don't they take somewhere like Pontins & house them all on site?

Are you really so daft that you think that’s what the hotels are charging NOW? Seriously? Is that honestly how you think this works??????

God almighty.

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 07:53

Bingbangbongbash · 14/01/2023 07:42

@1980sfookup

We don’t need to open up our homes because we live in a country that has welfare provisions, which is a sign of community and civility.

Put down the Daily Heil and go and do something less destructive. Bitterness and selfishness make people angry and alone. Community, love, feeling part of something bigger are all proven to extend life and increase happiness.

Agreed. I don’t need to house them because lucky the government is obliged to house them under theUN asylum seekers rules. The fact they do so so very grudgingly brings shame on our nation.

The more welcoming we are the better these people integrate into society, and will feel more obliged to give back when they have qualified as drs or nurses or caters and not head off to NZ like our graduates do.

Try being nice to them., not so angry towards them. You’ll be a happier person because of it.

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 07:54

Try being nice to them., not so angry towards them. You’ll be a happier person because of it aimed at @1980sfookup obvs.

Parrotid · 14/01/2023 07:54

woodhill · 14/01/2023 07:48

Yes just why would you behave like that especially if you are trying to start a new life and come to a new country

Frustration. Trauma. Depression. Fear. Utter impotence. Hostility from locals. If some of the comments on this thread are replicated in real life, then it’s hardly surprising that there’s undesirable behaviour. It’s the endless grinding hopelessness of it.

Msstakes · 14/01/2023 07:55

1980sfookup · 14/01/2023 07:16

I've just said - I don't care. I don't want to spend any time with asylum seekers and I can't anyway because I'm too busy working full time supporting myself.

Your opinion is yours and mine is mine. Neither of us are wrong -you just don't like my honesty.

1980 your opinion is similar to many Tory politicians. Who also do not care about the homeless, those on low income and definitely not you and yours. The problem with a society filled with people that don't care is that the arseholes get in charge and just look after their own.
They get people like you with the same outlook to vote for them. However unless you are rich you are being played and will be much worse off under a government filled with people. They will then laugh at people like you even harder than those of us that are trying to improve society.

Parrotid · 14/01/2023 07:58

And, it bears repeating that huge swathes of Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham and Newcastle had enormous population explosions, and the problems that came with it, when millions of Irish came over in very similar circumstances. Millions. In filthy slums, breeding like rabbits, traumatised to the extent that they were the single main cause of a massive increase in building of lunatic asylums. The trope about the Irish being “mad” wasn’t around until they were crazed with hunger.

But that’s ok cos they’re a bit more like us, right?

Shellsarebells · 14/01/2023 07:59

Sorefootouch · 14/01/2023 07:54

Try being nice to them., not so angry towards them. You’ll be a happier person because of it aimed at @1980sfookup obvs.

Exactly.

Tholeont · 14/01/2023 08:03

Asylumhotels · 13/01/2023 20:27

Sorry, so are those in the hotels refugees?

They may be asylum seekers, but they could be Afghan evacuees who have refugee status - these tend to be housed in better hotels than asylum seekers. Unfortunately move on to houses has been very slow, which is not good for families and very expensive

Squamata · 14/01/2023 08:07

How are we affording it? We're the sixth richest country on earth, we have tax revenues that we allocate.

Do you ask how we afford everything? How do we afford state pensions, the army, roads, railways etc? There's a nice tabloid manoeuvre to say 'x is a lot of money for something I think undeserving, we can't afford it' but we can afford lots of things, it's about how politicians decide to allocate money.

woodhill · 14/01/2023 08:07

@Parrotid

Yes I take your point

Tholeont · 14/01/2023 08:12

The best plan to stop the small boats would be to allow people to apply for asylum from overseas. To save money on those already here, we process claims far faster than now, and allow asylum seekers to work

LocSeeTan · 14/01/2023 08:15

Local 3 star hotel around the corner from me has been used exclusively for thr past 3 years to house asylum seekers .
There are at least six security guards on duty day and night.