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To tell her to piss off

134 replies

Neuroillogical · 10/01/2023 19:17

Apologies in advance for the rant…

In the supermarket with family. DH leaves store to nip across the road in car for extra bits while we finish shop.

He goes to inch out of parking space only to discover random lady was in his blind spot walking to the store with her trolley. Warning sensors beeped - he stopped immediately. Said lady then proceeds to bang on the window and demand he get out and speak to her and a whole shit show of drama ensues.

She claims he ‘touched her hip with car’ and threatens to call police. HIGHLY unlikely for various reasons but DH apologetic anyway/asked if she was ok/does she need anything. DH is a ppl pleaser (unlike me 😌) & being nice only seemed to spur her on. She gives him long lecture about how to drive(he drives for a living). Then demands to see disabled badge b/cos he doesn’t ‘look disabled’. (It was a disabled + parent child bay). Then accuses him of lying about having kids. (DH explains they are in store so she asks to see the car seats!!)

Anyway she starts taking pics of car, number plate (and DH!!!) for ´evidence’. Says she isn’t hurt in any way but she doesn’t feel DH apology is sufficient or sincere. He asks how he can resolve & she says it’s up to him to ´convince her he’s sorry’. Repeatedly threatening to call police. DH offers to call them himself & as soon as he dials she disappears off into the shop. Erm ok.

We reunite & he tells me what happened. By this point DH is shaken (he’s a nervous guy) & starts to worry he is going to be in some sort of trouble if she makes an accusation at a later date. As luck would have it we bump into her later at the exit & she is with a manager. She starts CRYING & saying she needs to be escorted to her car b/cos she was run over & is scared of DH. WTH!!

My thoughts-

  1. She’s a drama queen
  2. Even if and it’s a big IF DH brushed her with car(more likely she was startled) she is equally responsible for walking in a cars blind spot in the dark in the middle of a car park (and not on the designated walkway). also it’s an SUV and she was about 5 ft 2 on a good day
  3. She wasn’t hurt so should have accepted apology and left it. If she was so tramautised & outraged she would have called police -not done her weekly shop after
  4. She is outrageous for demanding proof of disability/children. It’s irrelevant and rude. (Ironically all our children and myself are actually disabled). She is neither the owner of the car park or J.Sainsbury.
  5. she is a chancer who I suspect was hoping for an offer of cash or something similar (which is also why I think she complained to manager) Gift card anyone??

Anyway, I got tired of seeing DH grovelling to her so I may/may not have told her where to stick her trolley. 😏

Interested to know how other people would have handled it..

OP posts:
Coffeecreme · 11/01/2023 07:22

i would keep an eye on your local facebook communty page

hoppityscotch · 11/01/2023 07:25

She was probably quite shocked and scared and it took her a while to calm down. I don't think telling her where to shove her trolley or whatever would have helped. So YABU for that. But it does sound like she was over reacting a bit - but we don't know her history, maybe she has been hit by a car before and it triggered her.

EatYourVegetables · 11/01/2023 07:57

@Neuroillogical I am not 5ft2, but neither do I make fun of people who are. I am however allergic to bad SUV drivers and their arrogance.

Dogscanteatonions · 11/01/2023 08:28

She sounds like a nightmare and after some kind of compensation.

However the onus is always on the driver to take as much care as possible, no amount of 'they should have been looking where they're going' is going to repair damage to a human body. Also any decent driver reverses into parking spaces. It is so much safer. Pedestrians in carparks are preoccupied, there are small kids around, trollies being pushed, other cars not necessarily posting enough attention etc etc.

etc

vivainsomnia · 11/01/2023 09:17

We reunite & he tells me what happened
It doesn't sound at all that he told you how it exactly happened! Her telling him that she's not injured but insist on an apology after he apologised a few times already? Doesn't sound credible at all. I expect his interpretation of the event is very different to what hers would be.

It happened, no big deal, you move on.

CockSpadget · 11/01/2023 10:23

JustMaggie · 11/01/2023 07:15

OP says the lady was walking to the store with her trolley, so if he did hit anything while reversing out of his spot it would have been her trolley and not her hip.

Unless she was already well behind the car when he started reversing.

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 10:52

ReformedWaywardTeen · 11/01/2023 06:53

Sounds like a scam to get a payout, especially including the store manager as she did on the way out. You/your DH should have called Police anyway, it's telling that she didn't ring them and walked away when he dialed. Smacks of she knew it was bullshit and knew the police would offer advice and go on their way and you would've had a record of no injury occurred.
By not contacting police, you are in danger of her going to one of those abhorrent ambulance chaser style claims people. It may be an idea to alert your car insurance company.

This is a load of absolute nonsense. The police won’t and can’t record NO INJURY. They can only say doesn’t appear to be injured. The police aren’t qualified to say whether she is injured or not. Also ambulance chasers? Give me strength, do you know what minuscule amount of compensation people get now to deal with minor injuries? No one is chasing this injury. The one thing you are correct about is that the OP should inform her insurer as technically she is obliged to under the terms of her policy

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 10:54

JustMaggie · 11/01/2023 07:15

OP says the lady was walking to the store with her trolley, so if he did hit anything while reversing out of his spot it would have been her trolley and not her hip.

How do you know it would have been her trolley not her hip? You are assuming that the lady had just started to cross the back of the vehicle. Doesn’t appear that even the OP DH has denied that was the case. Clearly he hasn’t looked over his shoulder before reversing. The OP DH’s word isn’t any more reliable than the pedestrian’s here.

ReformedWaywardTeen · 11/01/2023 11:44

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 10:52

This is a load of absolute nonsense. The police won’t and can’t record NO INJURY. They can only say doesn’t appear to be injured. The police aren’t qualified to say whether she is injured or not. Also ambulance chasers? Give me strength, do you know what minuscule amount of compensation people get now to deal with minor injuries? No one is chasing this injury. The one thing you are correct about is that the OP should inform her insurer as technically she is obliged to under the terms of her policy

Did you intend to come across as patronising?

No win no fee lawyers don't care whether the claim is valid or high paying, they get paid regardless.

I also meant the police would have a log showing they were aware of her suggestions of having been injured but none seen and no ambulance requested.

The fact that the only log of this incident is the CF taking photos of her DHs car, and her verbal bullshit to the store manager puts them at risk of her lies. She already got the manager on side enough to walk her to her vehicle. I know categorically she will take this further, because my Gran used to do things like this all the time, and she earned money several times and would brag how it paid for her holiday. She would find a patch of slippery stuff on a supermarket floor and seeing no sign she would "slip" and claim. It caused me embarrassment to the point I wouldn't go out with her as she would parrot "where there's blame there's a claim".

Kennykenkencat · 11/01/2023 12:49

daybroke · 11/01/2023 05:58

I've genuinely never seen a combined child and parent and disabled space in a sainsburys car park in Ireland.

I must check this out on Thursday because I'd say that's a if European Union law and you and your DH would be advised to take legal advice on this.

If in the U.K. why would a European Union law apply?

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 12:52

ReformedWaywardTeen · 11/01/2023 11:44

Did you intend to come across as patronising?

No win no fee lawyers don't care whether the claim is valid or high paying, they get paid regardless.

I also meant the police would have a log showing they were aware of her suggestions of having been injured but none seen and no ambulance requested.

The fact that the only log of this incident is the CF taking photos of her DHs car, and her verbal bullshit to the store manager puts them at risk of her lies. She already got the manager on side enough to walk her to her vehicle. I know categorically she will take this further, because my Gran used to do things like this all the time, and she earned money several times and would brag how it paid for her holiday. She would find a patch of slippery stuff on a supermarket floor and seeing no sign she would "slip" and claim. It caused me embarrassment to the point I wouldn't go out with her as she would parrot "where there's blame there's a claim".

Did you mean to post so much incorrect information?
Solicitors acting under a cfa, commonly known as a no win, no fee arrangement will be able to recover the costs from the client or a third party if they have been referred. A 6 month rta injury currently attracts compensation of £400. No one is chasing this kind of injury.
Again, many injuries are not immediately apparent. Ever woken up one day with a bruise and pain and wondered how you did it? Not calling an ambulance or the police proves absolutely nothing.
‘The fact that the only log of this incident is the CF taking photos of her DHs car, and her verbal bullshit to the store manager puts them at risk of her lies.’ The woman was totally correct to take pictures of the car she said hit her, if a car hit you would you not do the same? What other log of the incident could there be?
Getting the manager ‘onside’ is going to do precisely nothing. He didn’t see the accident.
I’m sorry you had such poor role models growing up. You do understand that not every single person pursuing a personal injury claim is faking though don’t you? You are letting your sad childhood experiences colour your interpretation of these events.

Kennykenkencat · 11/01/2023 12:54

ReformedWaywardTeen · 11/01/2023 11:44

Did you intend to come across as patronising?

No win no fee lawyers don't care whether the claim is valid or high paying, they get paid regardless.

I also meant the police would have a log showing they were aware of her suggestions of having been injured but none seen and no ambulance requested.

The fact that the only log of this incident is the CF taking photos of her DHs car, and her verbal bullshit to the store manager puts them at risk of her lies. She already got the manager on side enough to walk her to her vehicle. I know categorically she will take this further, because my Gran used to do things like this all the time, and she earned money several times and would brag how it paid for her holiday. She would find a patch of slippery stuff on a supermarket floor and seeing no sign she would "slip" and claim. It caused me embarrassment to the point I wouldn't go out with her as she would parrot "where there's blame there's a claim".

My thoughts exactly

Reminds me of when a woman in a car had stopped to let a young guy cross the road and the guy crossing them through himself onto her bonnet and rolled onto the road and was rolling around like he had been injured
The woman got out of the car and started shouting how she had a dash cam so he got up and ran away

There are some people who will do anything if they think they can get a few quid off you.

CalishataFolkart · 11/01/2023 12:58

Starlitestarbright · 10/01/2023 20:59

  1. Your dh is a shit driver, my dh is a HGV driver never hit anyone or anything,he certainly didn't pull out on someone.
  1. Never heard of Disabled/Child spaces. Disability spaces are priority, child spaces are a convenience. He had neither reason to use them.
  1. She sounds like a drama queen clearly shook up. But you don't sound like a peach yourself

He has disabled children though? That’s why the family was parked in that particular space.

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 13:18

Kennykenkencat · 11/01/2023 12:54

My thoughts exactly

Reminds me of when a woman in a car had stopped to let a young guy cross the road and the guy crossing them through himself onto her bonnet and rolled onto the road and was rolling around like he had been injured
The woman got out of the car and started shouting how she had a dash cam so he got up and ran away

There are some people who will do anything if they think they can get a few quid off you.

Eh??? The example in this thread is absolutely nothing like the example you have given??? The circumstances are entirely different.
What’s interesting to me is the leaps people are willing to make here. This woman may well be a chancer but equally she could be entirely truthful. Tbf to her as well she hasn’t indicated she has any intention of pursuing a claim.
I think it’s telling the OP hasn’t responded re the age of the woman. I might be totally wrong but this sounds very much to me like she was an older woman. Most older people, especially women who typically suffer from low bone density at a higher rate as they age, are cautious about falls and accidents because the effect on them is hugely different to that on a younger person. Even if this person was younger, ok they caused a bit of a fuss but some people are sensitive, most people in society can’t turn on the waterworks at the drop of a hat and wouldn’t dream of it for the sake of a few quid. I am astounded by the OP’s reaction. Maybe she genuinely did want a real apology from your husband.

daybroke · 11/01/2023 13:34

@Kennykenkencat because the op says she not the uk and the only other country that has sainsburys is Ireland?

Kennykenkencat · 11/01/2023 14:13

What’s interesting to me is the leaps people are willing to make here. This woman may well be a chancer but equally she could be entirely truthful. Tbf to her as well she hasn’t indicated she has any intention of pursuing a claim

What do you think the “doesn’t feel the apology is sufficient or sincere” actually meant.

She was after cash and because the Dh didn’t open his wallet then she went to see what she could get from the Supermarket.

I know people like this. Will try anything on to get something from someone

EcoChica1980 · 11/01/2023 14:29

Remind her that the whole thing is very likely to be on CCTV so if she thinks the video will back up her account she should
knock her self out and call the police. Then tell her to go f herself

Eyerollcentral · 11/01/2023 14:42

Kennykenkencat · 11/01/2023 14:13

What’s interesting to me is the leaps people are willing to make here. This woman may well be a chancer but equally she could be entirely truthful. Tbf to her as well she hasn’t indicated she has any intention of pursuing a claim

What do you think the “doesn’t feel the apology is sufficient or sincere” actually meant.

She was after cash and because the Dh didn’t open his wallet then she went to see what she could get from the Supermarket.

I know people like this. Will try anything on to get something from someone

Well given the OP’s interaction with her tbh it doesn’t scream a genuine apology to me. It sounds like she was told nothing happened and she was a liar. As I say maybe she is a chancer but statistically speaking it’s much more likely she wasn’t. What on earth could she possibly get from the supermarket?

AnnieSnap · 11/01/2023 16:44

@Eyerollcentral you know this is mumsnet, so they won’t listen. Anyone who disagrees will be ‘wrong’ and told to f*ck off. There are a lot of very aggressive (behind their keyboard), intolerant people on here, who appear to be unable reflect on experiences of views that don’t match their own. Replies to this post will, I expect illustrate that.

daisychain01 · 11/01/2023 18:06

ElaOfSalisbury · 11/01/2023 07:02

I would have completely called her bluff. Phone the Police, they would likely call for an ambulance to check her over, checked CCTV, etc. Give her enough rope…If she is making it up or exaggerating, her lies would likely come out.
Agree she sounds like a possible chancer.

You are kidding!!

This is a non event and you're advising someone to ring the Police and possibly get the emergency services involved.

unbelievable.

user1473878824 · 11/01/2023 18:10

Parrotid · 10/01/2023 20:15

A very similar thing happened to me. The woman concerned was very uppity and i think thought I’d back down as she accused me of hitting her car. I hadn’t. Not even a bit. And there was literally nothing to see. She got out and said she was going to take photos. I said I would too then, and told her to
smile as I was filming her. I admit I got a bit excited and was all “that’s right love, turn to me, straight into the camera, now, look away into the distance, ohhh lovely.” I was also laughing. She told me to fuck off and I laughed harder, and said I was going now, but if there was any damage to my car when I got back, we would all know who did it. And laughed more. Bullying bitch.

You’re clearly the very nasty bully in this story.

Dailydripfed · 11/01/2023 21:27

Interesting to see how many people think a ‘genuine’ apology is a £20 note 😂

RunnerBum · 11/01/2023 21:33

I’ve only skimmed the thread so sorry if this has already been said but I couldn’t spot it. I’d be shocked if it hasn’t though.

This is a pretty well-known scam. You need to contact the police, your insurance and the store. Ask the store for CCTV footage. Tell the police and insurance that she walked behind your vehicle after it began moving, you did not speed up and slowed down when you saw her and that you did not, at all, make contact with her at any stage - and she confirmed that she was uninjured.

Willyoujustbequiet · 11/01/2023 21:37

The blind spot is his responsibility not hers, don't be ridiculous and stop making excuses.

Chickenly · 11/01/2023 21:42

www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/you-hit-me-scam-alert/#app

It’s a scam.

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