To be sick of cashless society

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I prefer to use cash, I always have.

I find budgeting and spending so much easier. If I am tapping away on my card I think nothing of constant £3 £6 etc being spent on things I probably wouldn't buy if I was spending cash.

More and more places simply don't take cash and it's driving me mad.

Money has never been ours since banks existed and started making money. Unless you want to go back to the days of bartering gold and turnips.

No need for turnips, but also don't want a world where every single transaction is electronically logged.

It's not free to sell at a car boot sale, is it? How much did you pay to be a seller there?

Frankly, if you have time to dig out all your vaguely sell-able goods, box them up, drive them to a field or a car park at 7am on a Sunday morning and stand around haggling over 50p for four hours, I find it implausible that you are so short of time you couldn't possibly buy a card reader.

Frankly, if you have time to dig out all your vaguely sell-able goods, box them up, drive them to a field or a car park at 7am on a Sunday morning and stand around haggling over 50p for four hours, I find it implausible that you are so short of time you couldn't possibly buy a card reader.

But WHY? To haggle over 50p?

the bank/government doesn't need to know every single transaction. Especially now, when they want to be monitoring corbon foodprint and "encouraging heathy choices".

Yep. I'd prefer my spending not to be linked to social credits, carbon credits, or whatever the elites or politicians may decide to impose in the future (and these have been mooted) . I value my freedom and my privacy.

To be honest I’m sick of the transition period we are in. You’ve got to constantly take out both as some places are cash only, others card only. Sooner it moves into one of the other the better.

NAh. Almosty everywhere is both. What a load of drama over nothing!

I've restarted my cash in envelopes for food shopping. It's always worked well for me.
Tapping away is way too easy to fritter money away on nothing you need.

Not if you keep a detailed record of your spending.

All of the people saying this just need to keep a detailed record of their transactions. There are apps which can help, or I use a spreadsheet.

Cash for food shopping doesn't work when you do your food shopping online anyway!

Christ who wants to enter every transaction. £1.20 for milk, £3.50 for bus to work, £2.80 for a coffee, etc etc. It is tedious.

@TheWitchesAreBackInTown

Sorry I meant to ask you "what does come after?" when I tagged you in my previous post

That is what we are trying to look at.

As has been seen on this thread we have already had comments suggesting that the government is not capable of implemting such things and the old adage of it is a private business so it can do what it wants.

The latter has been recently highlighted with the takeover of twitter, the former is that more liberal countries do it by consent, high street banks are closing so has pushed everyone to the app. The snowden leaks show how much info 'was' harvested and it is a lot more now.

We have cross party support for an internet safety bill (in the name of protecting x) which shows how inept and out of touch they and it's supporters are and how quickly 'it's a private company it can do what it likes' soon becomes problamitic (see twitter) only it won't be about posting your hot takes on twitter it will mean you can't buy food or pay mortgage/rent for the month (after all it is a private company after all)

The edge cases are not known yet, at the height of the pandemic the majority of MN would have been in favour of a Chinese app (and I have seen first hand the system as I have family from China) so the edge is moving ever wider, what is shifting it even further is the narrative of the traditional left wing becoming more corporate/big business with 'its a private business'..

I'm a data engineer, english as a second language and dyslexic so it probably made no sense.

Then just tap your phone and and it will record it for you? At least what shop it was, and if you really needed to you can add a note on each transaction.

You can't track anything with cash.

Have you ever budgeted with cash pots in different envelopes? I only ask as it sounds like you do not understand how it works.

Of course I haven't, its the 21st century! I have a revolut account with seperate vaults to save in and a budget plan that exports my deets straight into a spreadsheet.

I'm not putting paper moneyy into envelopes, its the the 1940's.

It's NOT the 1940s that shoud have said

@wowwhydoesmybackhurtwaaah Doing what you do would take me bloody ages.

It takes a couple of minutes . How long does it take to find a working cash machine and go buy envelopes? Where do you even buy envelopes? Does anyone still use them?

@wowwhydoesmybackhurtwaaah Trust me it would take hours for me to set all that up. Hours and hours.
Don't you get letters? I got 4 official letters today. You reuse the envelopes.

And all large supermarkets have cash machines by them. Loads of shops offer cash back.

It takes a few seconds. 🤷‍♀️

I can't be arsed with cash. You like cash. Who knew different people could have different preferences?! 🤯🤯🤯

No, I don't really get letters. Not often anyway. What would I get letters about? Everything is done online and via email.

It's like you're living in a different century.

I rarely get letters; I'm set up as paperless on everything I can be.

@wowwhydoesmybackhurtwaaah That is so rude. I get hospital and GP letters for a start and from the bank. I like paper copies. They are easier to read.

You pay to be a car booter. But the card reader would be more and an extra cost.

Don't ask me, I haven't done a cbs for decades. I don't even own a car. I feel like ebay/shpock/gumtree/nextdoor/fb marketplace has replaced it completely

I was just questioning the idea that you would have enough time to do everything else involved in selling at a cbs (I forgot to include sourcing a table) and yet somehow getting a card reader would be hugely time-consuming.

Tbh I think they probably belong to two different eras. But buskers, travelling funfairs, burger vans and market traders have moved with the times - I expect car boot sales also will, in due course.